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Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Post by jimhi »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #10

Just wanted to share that I’ve been using OpenPhone for dealing with text spam, and I really like it so far: https://www.openphone.com/ The only trouble is that some services can verify that the number isn’t a “real” number (how do they do this?!) but it works most of the time. I’ve slowly been transitioning as much as possible to it. Phone calls even work great, and you can take them right through your laptop. It do…

It's because it's a VOIP number which they can check instead of a Mobile number.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Post by gnicholas »

inferiorhuman wrote: post #90
codsane wrote: post #22

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When turned off using control center. You can still completely disable it within settings. ( https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208086 )

When you "turn off" WiFi or Bluetooth via the control center you're simply disconnecting from any remote devices. To actually turn the radio off you need to go into the WiFi or Bluetooth settings – this lasts until you turn the radios back on.

Annoyingly, I've found that it doesn't even disconnect from all currently-connected devices. For example, my AirPods are often hijacked by my iPad when I'm setting it up for my kids to watch something. To pre-empt this, I will turn off BT via Control Center, but even having done that, the AirPods often switch over. Super annoying.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Post by Lammy »

AlbertCory wrote: post #24

NextDoor: home of the dumbest people on the Internet. They must be proud of that. There are occasionally things I want to see on there: a new Costco going in where the OSH Hardware used to be, or whatnot. So I got the daily email digest. One email per day -- tolerable. Then it stopped coming. I wrote to Support, and their guy swore it was still being sent! I said "no, it's not. I looked in Spam and Trash." He swore a…

> Nextdoor already has one, and they're trying to take it away.

Once a day isn’t “engaging” enough when Nextdoor’s biggest competitor is built around real-time notifications of fear-porn-near-you: https://citizen.com/

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Post by lamontcg »

woodruffw wrote: post #60
beeboop wrote: post #27

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We desperately need to overhaul how the average mail provider works. We need unique email addresses every time we sign up for an account that can then be disabled. I do this with fastmail though it's a little annoying to spend 20 seconds to create a new alias every time. At last count I had something like 470 aliases. Probably at least 40 disabled ones after receiving emails I didn't opt in for, or I disabled immedia…

Automated unique email addresses are a great idea, and I've been happy to see Apple make some positive moves in that direction. That being said: it's a technological step, another countermotion in a never ending arms race. I would like to see policy steps that erase this ridiculous battle entirely. I shouldn't need a giant pile of code to automate email addresses for me, because this kind of corporate behavior should…

I'd like to just ban all advertising that I didn't go looking for.

Society would be a hell of a lot better if we weren't being constantly bombarded.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Post by zionic »

ultrarunner wrote: post #82
zionic wrote: post #74

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Specifically for the design. I haven't been on it in a year, so my memory is foggy, but the reason I left was the fact that it seems tailor made to amplify the most paranoid, antisocial perspectives at the expense of good faith and trust. The following progression of thought comes to mind: many police departments have a mandatory arrest policy for calls in response to alleged domestic violence. Despite the fact that…

I can’t comment specifically with certainty on the internals of their algorithm.

What I can say though is I have lost most of the faith I had in moderation systems, their role should be to validate that XYZ is actually your neighbor. Maybe rate limit all posts by geo. Beyond that? Fuck off.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Post by AlbertCory »

dylan604 wrote: post #53
AlbertCory wrote: post #24

NextDoor: home of the dumbest people on the Internet. They must be proud of that. There are occasionally things I want to see on there: a new Costco going in where the OSH Hardware used to be, or whatnot. So I got the daily email digest. One email per day -- tolerable. Then it stopped coming. I wrote to Support, and their guy swore it was still being sent! I said "no, it's not. I looked in Spam and Trash." He swore a…

> Think about it -- almost every site on the Web is trying to get you to sign up for a daily email. Nextdoor already has one, and they're trying to take it away. Well, this is kind of a "duh!" moment though, yeah? Of course they don't want your only interaction with them to be a single email once a day. That's so Web1.0. They want you on their appyApp so that they can hit you with all of their engagement algos and ga…

Why? Well, the alternative is: I never go to their stupid website. Whereas now, I go there when some entry in the daily email is interesting. And very occasionally, contribute something that entices other people to go there.

Nextdoor: "Hey, how about you come here several times a day and stay, like we were a real website or something?"

Me: "Nope, nope, nope. Buh bye."

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Post by AlbertCory »

zionic wrote: post #76
AlbertCory wrote: post #24

NextDoor: home of the dumbest people on the Internet. They must be proud of that. There are occasionally things I want to see on there: a new Costco going in where the OSH Hardware used to be, or whatnot. So I got the daily email digest. One email per day -- tolerable. Then it stopped coming. I wrote to Support, and their guy swore it was still being sent! I said "no, it's not. I looked in Spam and Trash." He swore a…

This is because Nextdoor is “moderated” by your local neighborhood gestapo. Nextdoor, as an institution, actively seeks out people who pathologically engage with their platform and then gives them power over people geographically local to them. This results in moderation-cliques that decide what can and cannot be posted in their local neighborhoods. It somehow manages to be worse than this site when it comes to suppr…

I feel for you. And that's why it's worth getting a daily email from Nextdoor, but no more than that.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Post by abawany »

Semaphor wrote: post #67
lwansbrough wrote: post #64

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It's the people not the layout.

Depending on the subreddit, the people are less of an issue than on HN.

Yes, I agree. I've run into some great subreddits and extremely helpful people there. Reddit imo is the best social media experience, almost like the old usenet, if the 'engagey' subreddits are removed from one's list.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Post by flukus »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #81
AlbertCory wrote: post #24

NextDoor: home of the dumbest people on the Internet. They must be proud of that. There are occasionally things I want to see on there: a new Costco going in where the OSH Hardware used to be, or whatnot. So I got the daily email digest. One email per day -- tolerable. Then it stopped coming. I wrote to Support, and their guy swore it was still being sent! I said "no, it's not. I looked in Spam and Trash." He swore a…

What is it with these corporations randomly running experiments on people anyway? It used to be that there was an opt in buried somewhere in the settings. Now they just assume we want to be their unpaid guinea pigs?

It's a consequence of having our software run on other peoples computers. 20 years ago it wasn't really an option because most software was installed and pushing updates was hard, but now everything can be updated without the user even knowing. IME there's a lot of people on HN that will even defend this sort of A/B testing.

This is why I like debian, I never open an app to find out the entire UI is changed while I was asleep.

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