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Re: 700M users and Premium

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I use it for notification from many servers... just a quick curl in a script, and I get an alert on my phone in a matter of milliseconds.

That's actually awesome, does Telegram have an API of some sort?

Telegram actually has full-featured APIs, allowing you to implement both bots and custom clients! You can start here: https://core.telegram.org/ . Unfortunately, I don't have the direct link to the single-curl-request.

Re: 700M users and Premium

#92
post #41

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I use it for notification from many servers... just a quick curl in a script, and I get an alert on my phone in a matter of milliseconds.

That's actually awesome, does Telegram have an API of some sort?

Yep :)

You first create a bot, then join a chat with that bot, then control the bot via the http api

api: https://core.telegram.org/bots/api

quickstart (just to send messages, not mine): https://gist.github.com/dideler/85de4d64f66c1966788c1b2304b9...

Re: 700M users and Premium

#93
Yesterday I chatted in Telegram with my friends about a gadget I was considering to purchase - I’ve got an ad of this gadget in Instagram almost immediately. I couldn’t reproduce it by mentioning some other trendy stuff, but it triggered me anyway. Has anyone experienced the same?

Re: 700M users and Premium

#94
post #19

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It's WhatsApp for people who don't trust Meta/Facebook.

Interestingly, Telegram by default is not even end to end encrypted.

It's not a large corp who's monetization strategy is selling or exploiting user data. In fact, it's founded by someone who was screwed over by government overreach.

It's not perfect, obviously, but if I had the choice between Durov and Zuckerberg, I'd take the former every time.

Re: 700M users and Premium

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Telegram blows my mind. Say what you want about their security; they have the absolute best UX of any (primarily 1-on-1) messaging app, bar none. Discord is a close second. But the quality and polish of telegram blows me away to this day. And it’s lots of small features and details such as built in translation for messages in a foreign language, all the smooth animations, quick look and summaries of channels with agg…

> Say what you want about their security; they have the absolute best UX of any (primarily 1-on-1) messaging app, bar none. That is precisely because they don't give a shit about security. While others like Whatsapp bother with e2ee and resulting device sync problems and inability to do server-side search, Telegram just stores everything on a server without (meaningful) encryption and boldly claims that 'it is the mo…

>...and yes, nobody of them used Secret chats...

Pretty much no one does any sort of identity verification anyway on any E2EE messaging system. So that means that the people running the servers can MITM if they feel like it to get the content. So in practice Telegram might be the best of something or another for all it matters. It's sort of a con. Yes our E2EE encryption app is perfectly secure assuming you do this thing that we know you won't bother with and will not be able to figure out anyway.

Study based on Signal, but applicable to pretty much all of them:

* https://www.ndss-symposium.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/09...

Re: 700M users and Premium

#96
post #10

So who here is using Telegram and for what? I'm consider myself pretty well connected, but I don't have the app. Tell me what I'm missing.

Outside of being great for cross-platform messaging, it's awesome for transferring files. Quick, no restrictions on file extensions, and I've yet to hit a size limit. Great for building an APK and shooting it off to my friends + other devices. It's also great for piracy. There's a channel I'm in with links to updated Nintendo Switch modpacks as well as one for premium STL files.

And there's a veteran (as in age) SciHub bot. Works great and is more hassle free than constantly dealing with DNS blocks/ new domain names.

Re: 700M users and Premium

#97
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Many people are asking what are in Telegram that aren’t anywhere else? I can provide some answers. Telegram is my primary chat app. - It offers you to simply share an alphanumeric handle and you can connect with anyone in the world. I can do a voice chat or normal chat really quickly and easily. It is the only famous truly Instant Messenger there is. And I can do it without sharing my name (unlike FB), email address,…

WhatsApp Mac app is not native on Mac, it quickly inflates into multi GB RAM consumption and the UI starts lagging even on M1. Very few things bring down this machine to its knees and one of them can be WhatsApp.

Telegram is not like that, channels with tons of videos and pictures continue to work smoothly.

Re: 700M users and Premium

#98
post #70

Many people are asking what are in Telegram that aren’t anywhere else? I can provide some answers. Telegram is my primary chat app. - It offers you to simply share an alphanumeric handle and you can connect with anyone in the world. I can do a voice chat or normal chat really quickly and easily. It is the only famous truly Instant Messenger there is. And I can do it without sharing my name (unlike FB), email address,…

Discord does all this too? + the server rooms.

Stop. Stop it. This is such an unproductive reply

Re: 700M users and Premium

#99

I'm a happy Telegram user, but the features Telegram are introducing with their premium subscription are not particularly compelling, and some of them really seem like anti-features: • 4 GB uploads, faster downloads: I'm struggling to imagine what these would be useful for, other than movie piracy. The default upload limit is already 2 GB, and the download speed is fine. • Doubled limits: Most of these are client-sid…

Given these features (and their desire to keep Telegram free), I view these as "donation bonuses", not features to pay for. Although Discord has a similar monetization strategy and people seem to not mind it, so maybe it's just us being out of touch.

Re: 700M users and Premium

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Keyword is popular. I’m a proponent of matrix, but it’s absolutely not popular.

It's very popular with people who value not having their data stored in plaintext.

I use Discord for public communications and I don't mind plaintext storage at all - on the contrary, on public chats, I personally value public history.

The last time I've used Matrix actually, usability was a disaster; took me a while to figure out even just how to login, and that wasn't the only problem.

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