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U.S. inflation reached a new four-decade high of 8.6% in May

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Re: U.S. inflation reached a new four-decade high of 8.6% in May

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Well, if a single additional R senator had won in 2020, the ARP wouldn't have passed and inflation at these levels largely wouldn't have occurred to begin with. Gridlock is the best thing we can get right now. They are still pitching BBB among all of this, which is frankly amazing. Despite inflation being a horrible political anchor for the Democrats, they have yet to pitch any economically sound policy to combat it.…

This really feels like you are ignoring the larger context here. The issues didn't start with the ARP...far from it. The pandemic and Republicans are equally to blame here. Saying that none of this would've happened without the passing of the ARP is very simplistic and probably wrong.

There were many badly designed policies in the 2020 packages too, such as the PPP.

But at least they had the benefit of the doubt that covid was novel and not well understood, and they were compromise packages with both parties involved.

The ARP was passed solely by Democrats a full year after covid lockdowns started, and was quite obviously excessive by any mathematical/fundamental measurement.

The Fed is the most complicit of all, because they had the power to unilaterally pump the breaks at any point, yet did nothing until it was far too late.

You can believe whatever you want, but it's quite obvious how this is going to look to historians.

Re: U.S. inflation reached a new four-decade high of 8.6% in May

#92
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All-time high for U.S. inflation All-time high for gas prices ($6/gal in Seattle!) All-time high for food prices Needless to say, elections in November are going to be VERY interesting.

Why? If Republicans control congress what will be different? Is the US going to be the only country in the world to get inflation under control? Is the GOP that good? What are their solutions (serious question)? Because all I here is "CRT bad" and "don't say gay". I never hear anything proposed to solve any of this.

The economy is goods and services produced.

Money is an exchange medium to facilitate exchanging goods and services. Before money, we exchanged things without that medium, I'll give you a goat and you'll give me a haircut. Money is a symbol, a record of sorts, and a grease of sorts, a means to an end (to make it easier to exchange things).

When the government locks the economy down, and prints money, this creates a huge demand (the money given to people and low interest rates handed out, mostly in trickle-down fashion from the top), but the demand doesn't match the goods and services that weren't being produced. Suddenly it's become obvious that things cost more, because there's more money and less things.

The fact that our President just this week called it "Putin's price increases" tells you all you need to do know about the quality of our leadership. Lo and behold, it was not better than the previous leadership, which said equally stupid things.

It might just be that the government (Republican or Democrat) should be legally limited from doing certain things, like racking up debt.

Re: U.S. inflation reached a new four-decade high of 8.6% in May

#93

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None of that matters. "current situation bad = vote different color" for some.

Also it bears mentioning that the president's brain is actively melting, and yet our VP is so undesirable and unlikeable that I don't want anything unfortunate to happen to Biden, or for him to get 25th amendment'd. All I can do is vote for the opposition, and by God this is the first time I'm voting Republican/Independent/Conservative.

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Re: U.S. inflation reached a new four-decade high of 8.6% in May

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How does the President “force” someone to resign when they are in charge of selecting the person for that role?

The Fed Chair cannot be removed by the President once installed. He was pressured by other means.

They have to be renominated every 4 year term.

He served out his 2nd term and was not renominated.

Not arguing that it wasn’t political, it clearly is even based on the Biden nomination.

Re: U.S. inflation reached a new four-decade high of 8.6% in May

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Anyone have opinions on how long this inflation spike will last, or what the peak will be? I seriously thought we had maybe peaked earlier this year, and it looks like the peak so far was in March for core inflation excluding food and energy. However, maybe high energy prices will feed back into other consumer prices eventually, triggering more inflation. The producer price index (PPI) is still really wild, so maybe…

This is the new baseline, you won't see inflation lower than this long-term until the system completely collapses under its own weight. The only thing keeping things running is cheap money and there will need to be more of it. Any "solution" that looks like austerity will result in destabilizing unrest. In the USA, Republicans will campaign on inflation but make money as cheap as ever as soon as they have control, be…

This is not what is going to happen.

The government is likely to be locked up pretty hard if the Republicans take either the House or the Senate in the fall, and while we might not see hard austerity, we certainly won't see any stimulus.

Meanwhile, the Fed has been talking consistently very tough on inflation and is bumping 0.50 basis points every meeting and signalling that they'll do that until inflation is contained. They're talking positively about Paul Volker and keeping rates significantly above what is considered to be neutral.

And what they're worried about is the broad wage increases that are being seen (and the whole backlash against shitty jobs and pay and unionization drives).

They absolutely will raise rates this time pretty fast -- much faster than the 0.25 basis point tightening and calming reassurances every meeting under Greenspan. They're talking tougher than I've seen them ever talk in the 21st Century.

If you believe the economy is a huge bubble, they're talking like they're going to pop it. And they always overshoot and they're talking and looking like they're going to overshoot. That means that meaningfully large areas of the economy are likely to detonate (probably CMBS). Crypto will also probably melt down.

And with a Republican congress and a Democratic President the thing to worry about is that if the system needs rescuing that a chunk of the Republicans may be happy to watch it burn and blame it on Biden. Of course that will hurt them, too, but they may realize too late that the Leopards will also eat their face as well.

They're going to proceed with waging class war and crash the economy into an iceberg to get wages back under control. And everyone who is screaming at them about inflation is going to cheer them on to do it. Then when the economy hits the wall the people who would put out the fire are going to be paralyzed into inaction.

This time it is actually different because the Boomers are retiring, COVID and long COVID has taken people out of the workforce, the pandemic itself has made people very uppity and demanding and there's a huge overhang of jobs compared to job-seekers and we're seeing wage inflation. That's novel compared to the past 30+ years. And they're pretty much freaking out over it. And there's no political pushback, they have a blank check right now politically to get inflation under control. When I try to suggest that a wage-price inflation cycle would be useful to reprice debt and assets like housing people and that "stagflation" is the less-painful path to repricing people act like I should be locked up in the loony bin. QED, the Fed currently has a single political mandate to get inflation under control. We're gonna see deflation. Yield curve is going to be pushed into inverting until something breaks.

Re: U.S. inflation reached a new four-decade high of 8.6% in May

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Everyone likes to blame the Russia-Ukraine conflict but inflation was spiking prior to supply issues. That war is a convenient scapegoat for politicians and bureaucrats who don’t want to take credit for profligate spending and loose policy for decades.

Russia is a convenient excuse. It's not the reason. They cancel the XL and other pipelines but pressure KSA to produce more. The whitehouse has even admitted they are using this situation to push their stated agenda of transitioning to more renewables (noble, but not consequence free). They want to eat their cake and have it too. Reality does not work that way.

Let me ask you, what was the type oil being pushed through that pipeline and where was that oil destined for and what was the max throughout of the pipeline? I suggest you look it up. If you look closely, you'll realize the XL pipeline would've actually caused an increase in crude prices in the Midwest and most of the oil was destined for export. KXL was a bad deal for Americans. It certainly wouldn't have led to an increase in energy security.

Re: U.S. inflation reached a new four-decade high of 8.6% in May

#97

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Well, if a single additional R senator had won in 2020, the ARP wouldn't have passed and inflation at these levels largely wouldn't have occurred to begin with. Gridlock is the best thing we can get right now. They are still pitching BBB among all of this, which is frankly amazing. Despite inflation being a horrible political anchor for the Democrats, they have yet to pitch any economically sound policy to combat it.…

This really feels like you are ignoring the larger context here. The issues didn't start with the ARP...far from it. The pandemic and Republicans are equally to blame here. Saying that none of this would've happened without the passing of the ARP is very simplistic and probably wrong.

Why are we blaming Republicans here? The ARP cost US taxpayers $1.9 _trillion_. Such spending causes inflation. [1]

[1]https://www.vox.com/23036340/biden-american-rescue-plan-infl...

Re: U.S. inflation reached a new four-decade high of 8.6% in May

#98
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And more gasoline is produced.

Everyone likes to blame the Russia-Ukraine conflict but inflation was spiking prior to supply issues. That war is a convenient scapegoat for politicians and bureaucrats who don’t want to take credit for profligate spending and loose policy for decades.

The rising gasoline prices started well before the Russian war. They started almost immediately after we inaugurated a president who said he would shut down fracking, and followed through to the best of his ability.

Re: U.S. inflation reached a new four-decade high of 8.6% in May

#99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This really feels like you are ignoring the larger context here. The issues didn't start with the ARP...far from it. The pandemic and Republicans are equally to blame here. Saying that none of this would've happened without the passing of the ARP is very simplistic and probably wrong.

Why are we blaming Republicans here? The ARP cost US taxpayers $1.9 _trillion_. Such spending causes inflation. [1] [1] https://www.vox.com/23036340/biden-american-rescue-plan-infl...

Did you happen to read the article?

In regards to the ARP: "Estimates suggest that fiscal support measures designed to counteract the severity of the pandemic’s economic effect may have contributed to this divergence by raising inflation about 3 percentage points by the end of 2021."

And then Trump: "...because it was enacted after more than $3 trillion had already been spent to stimulate the economy under Trump."

So what is not proper about Trump and Republicans sharing the blame if not shouldering more?....

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