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We got Linux on the iPhone, iPad and other idevices

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Re: We got Linux on the iPhone, iPad and other idevices

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Post by smoldesu »

fartcannon wrote: post #84
ben174 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And any way you look at it, it's clear that Apple wasn't just trying to cripple old phones in an attempt to sell the newer models. They were doing their best to prolong the life and/or maintain a decent experience for the phones that had become outdated.

Which is why they were sued and _lost_? The mental gymnastics you people use is nuts. I guess this is part of Apples PR, is it? Deny history?

Hacker News in 2022 is a strange place, it's hard to engage with people who already have their opinion of Apple decided before they've heard how they've messed up this time. The notch was particularly funny, watching everyone's incredulous reaction while people immediately went to damage control with the "but it's still 16:10!!!" addendum.

This goes to everyone: Give up. All of these companies suck, the only thing their money buys them is better marketing. It's not worth your time being their PR lackey for them.

Re: We got Linux on the iPhone, iPad and other idevices

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Post by simion314 »

brk wrote: post #66
simion314 wrote: post #11

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>How could we benefit from having Linux on old iDevices? On old devices that do not get updates your internet will stop working because of old browser, missing SSL certificates or old libraries. With Linux you might get an updated browser and you could use the device to browse things and you can do whatever your mind can imagine like maybe write a simple bash/python script to automate something.

Technically yes, but when? I just retired an iPhone5 that we were using as a "house controller", streaming Pandora, home automation app, etc. I retired it not because the software stopped working but because the battery won't last more than 30 minutes off the charger, and I had an iPhone8 sitting around doing nothing. IMO an iPhone with linux is going to be less of "do whatever your mind can imagine" and more of "spe…

So this is not for you or people like you, could be a solution for poor people, all my computing devices were old second hand stuff ntill I had a good job to afford some new average PC. Android devices also suffer from this issue, some where some stuff gets outdated and many webpages or apps will not longer work for you because of security reasons forcing you to get a new device.

>IMO an iPhone with linux is going to be less of "do whatever your mind can imagine" and more of "spend countless time trying to hack random stuff into this unsupported platform".

That does not generalize, sure you can't imagine what you could use a device like that and the freedom but others can. On my Linux desktop I have a one line script that will speak the time to me every 15 minutes (I need it) or I have a script that when I press a button it will OCR the screen and read it to me. Sure 99% of people will buy an app that might do a similar thing or just give up BUT people like me just think "would be cool if this would work and we do it".

And don't try to accuse me that it took me 12 hours to make a button to OCR my screen or other bullshit accusations, you can spend 5 minutes googling what package does a screen grab, what package does OCR from image, then you combine the 2 packages and done , 5 minutes and I had hours saved and sometimes made impossible stuff possible .

Re: We got Linux on the iPhone, iPad and other idevices

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Post by jagger27 »

black_puppydog wrote: post #69
xalava wrote: post #61

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What is the benefit compared to a rooted android tablet?

Not sure this applies here since the OP seems to be only for certain hardware, but... I'd have bought an android tabled years ago if I had found something that seriously competes with the iPad Pro 12" versions.

iPads are just straight up good hardware, externally and internally.

Re: We got Linux on the iPhone, iPad and other idevices

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Post by zekrioca »

fareesh wrote: post #20

I remember being in an IRC regularly 10-12 years ago where there was a community that was semi-active about a project to port android to the iPhone created by David Wang (planetbeing). There were a few builds going around at the time which I tried out. This video had gone somewhat viral at the time which is what sparked my interest. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJj0kHQgC9w . It seems like that project eventually b…

In the video he browses to an old website (http://galiaxy.net/), and it displays a design website from Alisa. Is "Alisa" the same as Alyssa Rosenzweig from Asahi? That would be an interesting coincidence :)

Re: We got Linux on the iPhone, iPad and other idevices

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Post by srndsnd »

While only semi-related, this reminds me a lot of iPodLinux, a project from around 2006/2007. I'm on the younger side, and this project was my first real introduction to the possibilities of computing. It let my grayscale iPod Classic play videos and Doom, which at the time, was mindblowing to me and my middle school classmates. In the process I was fortunate enough to actually learn a thing or two about Linux and computers in general.

While they're not always the most practical, they can definitely encourage the hacker ethos in people who wonder what their devices can do that Apple might hide outside their walled garden.

Re: We got Linux on the iPhone, iPad and other idevices

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Post by fartcannon »

smoldesu wrote: post #91
fartcannon wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is why they were sued and _lost_? The mental gymnastics you people use is nuts. I guess this is part of Apples PR, is it? Deny history?

Hacker News in 2022 is a strange place, it's hard to engage with people who already have their opinion of Apple decided before they've heard how they've messed up this time. The notch was particularly funny, watching everyone's incredulous reaction while people immediately went to damage control with the "but it's still 16:10!!!" addendum. This goes to everyone: Give up. All of these companies suck, the only thing th…

Microsoft's CEO admitted that they have been gaming Hackernews for a while, so it's highly likely the other big brands do the same.

Re: We got Linux on the iPhone, iPad and other idevices

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Post by formerly_proven »

xalava wrote: post #61
jagger27 wrote: post #48

This is really all about the iPads to me. Having that "magical piece of glass" run free software for years to come is an absolute win.

What is the benefit compared to a rooted android tablet?

There are a lot of iPads.

Re: We got Linux on the iPhone, iPad and other idevices

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Post by nonrandomstring »

CommanderData wrote: post #79

I'm so excited. I want to use an old Ipad that has a failing battery as a home automation screen. Poor iOS APIs mean developers can't create good kiosk apps to do simple things like control system settings, lock screen and so many more things that I resorted to an Android tablet. This is finally going to make it possible and turn junk into gold.

> This is finally going to make it possible and turn junk into gold.

Hearing many people say this. I may write it up from a e-waste POV as a big win for the environment.

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