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Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

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Post by bartvk »

wildmanx wrote: post #61
bartvk wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not about whether the client supports one non-essential feature or not. It's about a project that silently ignores a privacy-related setting, which then exposes the fact that people download something.

> It's about a project that silently ignores a privacy-related setting, which then exposes the fact that people download something. Which means that everybody who either doesn't use a proxy or does not care whether it's exposed what they are downloading can happily use Deluge. Using the term "nobody" you are exaggerating quite a bit, don't you think? Instead of complaining and demanding that others fix something for…

Thanks for pointing it out — yes, using “nobody” is exaggerating and I’ve edited it.

Note that I’m not demanding anything. Or complaining that it isn’t fixed. How could I? The person developing it, may have their reasons which I don’t know about.

However I am pointing out the issue, because there are more secure alternatives out there, if privacy is what you value.

Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

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Post by bartvk »

wildmanx wrote: post #60
bartvk wrote: post #45

In my opinion, nobody (edit: who values their privacy) should use Deluge. There's an issue where proxy settings are ignored: https://dev.deluge-torrent.org/ticket/2149 It's been open since 10 years, and this is not a great situation for a torrent client. Where torrents are concerned, proxies are explicitly used to protect privacy. Even in this very topic, someone said they were happy with the SOCKS proxy option in De…

For you and everybody else complaining about this aspect: This is open source software. GPL licensed. It's provided as-is. You are free to use it and express what you think about it, and the maintainers are equally free to do with your opinion whatever they like, which includes ignoring it. Clearly, none of the maintainers found this to be a problem. They likely don't need proxy settings for themselves. And they appa…

I agree that using “nobody” is not fair, and I’ve edited it. Note that in my opinion, the developers don’t need to do anything.

Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

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Post by forgotpwd16 »

enlyth wrote: post #73
wildmanx wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Deluge still hasn't had an official Windows release for 2.x, and it's been that way since 2019. This is GPL software made by people in their free time, for free. Apparently, the intersection of "people who want a Windows release", "people who have the skill to do it" and "people who want to do it for free" is empty. If you belong to all 3 groups, then please go ahead and provide a Windows release. If you don't then…

And because it's someone's free time project that doesn't bother to make releases for the most popular computing platform on Earth, it is somehow immune from criticism? Everything OP said is correct.

>most popular computing platform on Earth

I think Deluge runs on MINIX just fine. /jk

Just saying Windows is nowhere the most popular computing platform although it's the most popular laptop/desktop OS.

Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

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Post by forgotpwd16 »

pkhamre wrote: post #18

Is torrents still a thing? Genuinely curious. It looks like a cool piece of software with lots of nice features, but I mean.. I don't need, as far as I know, a client-server stack for downloading stuff.

>a client-server stack

Why is this bad if this happens in the background while appearing to you as a normal app?

Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

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Post by dvzk »

bartvk wrote: post #87
my80thaccount wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a really bad look, but I would think that if opsec is important to you, you won't have your proxy configuration in application level settings of a Python app. I think the people who would be concerned about this use system wide VPNs or seed boxes.

SOCKS is sometimes used as an additional layer to privacy. Stock system level VPN will continue without VPN if the VPN server somehow drops the connection.

If you are limiting the discussion to included stock VPN implementations, doesn’t that basically just include IPsec? Most secure third-party options will drop packets that aren’t destined for an encrypted tunnel, even while not running.

Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

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Post by Thorentis »

forgotpwd16 wrote: post #85
Thorentis wrote: post #48

qBittorrent ( https://www.qbittorrent.org ) is far superior. Cross platform, feature rich, actively developed.

>Cross platform, feature rich, actively developed. So is Deluge.

Not all platforms have latest versions being currently developed.

Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

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Post by wildmanx »

enlyth wrote: post #90
wildmanx wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure it's correct. It's raining outside right now and I don't like it. That's also a correct statement. Just because it comes from the sky doesn't make it "somehow immune from criticism". But that's not a very meaningful complaint. I can complain about the rain all day. Will it change anything? No. In contrast to the rain, some feature missing in some open source project can be fixed. Put your energy into complaining…

"I don't like A because the authors don't care about my platform I prefer B" Suddenly five thousand voices of open source zealots appear from nowhere, writing paragraphs and paragraphs about how it is morally outrageous to even suggest any sort of shortcoming, and you should immediately drop everything you're doing and contribute to the codebase yourself. I know I'm getting a little flamebaity for HN standards, but t…

> Suddenly five thousand voices of open source zealots appear from nowhere

The image that presented itself to me was: An article about an open source project was linked and the two top HN comments were 1. complaints that proxy use doesn't work for 10 years and 2. complaints that there is no official Windows port.

Now, who is the one complaining here? The "open source zealots"?

I find it legitimate to respond to such complaints by pointing out the nature of the criticized project.

Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

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Post by bartvk »

dvzk wrote: post #95
bartvk wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SOCKS is sometimes used as an additional layer to privacy. Stock system level VPN will continue without VPN if the VPN server somehow drops the connection.

If you are limiting the discussion to included stock VPN implementations, doesn’t that basically just include IPsec? Most secure third-party options will drop packets that aren’t destined for an encrypted tunnel, even while not running.

It's been a long time since I used Deluge and found that bug, but I think you're correct.

Nowadays I follow your advice and use a third-party option.

Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

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Post by em-bee »

lapser wrote: post #14

What's really cool about Deluge is that it can run in a client/server mode where the Deluge can act as a thinclient. This way you can set up a server, and install Deluge on all your machines, and have them all connect to the same server. As with many other torrent clients, there is of course also a web ui, as well as various thinclient apps. Having said that, if you don't need a good client/server model, my personal…

there is even a mobile client. sometimes when i am outside and i discover something that i want to get like a new linux distribution i want to try, i can then use the mobile client to load it into my server at home so i won't forget to do it later.
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