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Samsung Overtakes Apple as World’s Biggest Smartphone Seller

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Re: Samsung Overtakes Apple as World’s Biggest Smartphone Seller

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Depends upon whether you count iPads as PCs or not - if you do, then yes, Apple is on the verge of winning the PC war.

I think you're mistaken. There have been around 40 million iPads sold, whereas Windows 7 alone has sold over 400 million copies (released a few months before the iPad). iPad surpassing PC sales would be a heck of an achievement.

Winning the PC war in the sense of becoming the leading PC vendor - overtaking Windows will take another decade. :-)

Re: Samsung Overtakes Apple as World’s Biggest Smartphone Seller

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These figures are a red herring, I'd like to know how the iPhone-equivalent models from Samsung/others are selling. The 3GS is available on upfront $0, but the plan cost is higher, which means it's not competitive to the much cheaper, albeit less-featured/powered models from other vendors. In essence this is apple replicating their 90%+ marketshare in computers over USD$1000.

As an app developer I'm more interested in how this top end pans out. I want the consumers who are willing to buy apps, and I want there to be lots of them on one kind of platform so I don't have to do the heavy lifting in making the game consistent across all handsets. I'm not making angry-birds clones that could run on minecraft redstone, so a basic level of GPU+CPU capability is needed.

Samsung's business model promotes the further fragmentation of Android, and I think this will be a bad thing for consumers(read: developers). We'll be back to the days of nokia making a different phone for every conceivable type of person there is, with only nokia or huge studios with the capability to make the umpteen variations required to make the game feel at least comparable across each handset.

If there are 80% of the market using android devices that are underpowered the only winner will be flashlight apps.

Re: Samsung Overtakes Apple as World’s Biggest Smartphone Seller

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How much money does Apple and Samsung make from smartphones?

From Q2 2011 http://www.bgr.com/2011/07/29/apples-iphone-accounted-for-66...

That seems to show total profit of Apple from Q2 of 2011. See http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2011/04/20Apple-Reports-Seco... "The Company posted record second quarter revenue of $24.67 billion and record second quarter net profit of $5.99 billion" and compare that number to the latter graph on the page you posted.

Or am I reading this wrong? I know nothing about finances, so it very well might be that case that I just don't understand what I read.

So, again, how much does Apple and Samsung make money from mobile phones?

Re: Samsung Overtakes Apple as World’s Biggest Smartphone Seller

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> As anti-capitalist, I oppose all corporations Yea, some anti-capitalist you are - cheering for Google any chance you get and buying a "huge hdtv"! You are just a troll.

Last I checked I get to decide my own personal beliefs. I love technology, including hardware such as televisions and tablets, and free software based upon GNU/Linux and web standards, which are both things Google actively contributes to. I am anti-capitalist precisely because of my love of technology. I believe that we can construct a social system which vastly improves our rate of technological progress and that wo…

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Re: Samsung Overtakes Apple as World’s Biggest Smartphone Seller

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Samsung is indisputably more "tyrannical" than Apple. The corporation has unsurpassed political influence in South Korea. For instance, scumbag Chairman (former CEO) Lee Kun-Hee is a nepotist and admitted guilt to political bribery in 2008. Guess what? He paid his way out of jail time and was even pardoned by LMB in 2009. Samsung also has tremendous media influence in the nation. The company influences the media by g…

Just ignore him, he is nothing but a troll using buzz words he read somewhere...

You consistently presents personal attacks such as "you are a troll" rather then coherent arguments.

Re: Samsung Overtakes Apple as World’s Biggest Smartphone Seller

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I'm really confused as to why some people seem to have strong feelings about this.

I guess this is just a way of confirming your choice with so many out there. This is similar to the Google+ and Facebook buzz that was there a some time ago.

Also, people want their favorite companies to be pitted against their closest competitor and when they emerge victorious, they have a sense of pride about it.

To end, this is very similar to the emacs vs vim or windows vs linux vs mac or the browser competition where people just want to establish their some kind of superiority over the others.

Re: Samsung Overtakes Apple as World’s Biggest Smartphone Seller

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It's clear that very small market share is not sustainable, but the market is so large that I think iOS will be fine even if it levels off at ~30% share.

And also, given that a much larger share of Android users switch to iOS than switch the other way, Apple will do fine.

that is totally false; I (comscore, nielsen) observe that android came from 1% to near 50% of all sales globally in 2 years despite the media buzz around ip. most of my friends are disappointed by over promised, not met expectations of ip5 and they are moving to large screen android phones. sgs2 and sgn are clear winners as well as htc.
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