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Gas stoves are more hazardous than we’ve been led to believe (2020)

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Post by jwilk »

jimhefferon wrote: post #24
philips wrote: post #4

Relatedly I found this video on electric kettles vs gas stove efficiency for heating water pretty illuminating too: https://youtu.be/_yMMTVVJI4c?t=763 The summary is that a cheap electric kettle can boil water way faster and with far less wasted energy than a stove top kettle.

What about compared to putting a cup in a kitchen microwave?

Microwave ovens are not as good as electric kettles, but still better than gas stoves.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/29/climate/nyt-climate-newsl...

"an overall efficiency [of a gas stove was] only 30.5 percent"

"The microwave was a bit better; it clocked in at about 43 percent efficiency."

"[Electric kettles] hit 70 percent efficiency."

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Post by mulligan »

poutine wrote: post #44

My wife and I have allergies and are poor sleepers, as a result I religiously monitor air quality in several points in the home in order to manage the air. I find CO2 ppm over 1000 provides for headaches and poor sleep. Having a modern well sealed home means you rely a lot on an HRV to exchange the air, but sometimes you need to open the windows. After all the monitoring for years I can attest that the gas cooktop ha…

do you have a comparison of air quality in your home when cooking using a non-gas stove?

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Post by parkingrift »

bittercynic wrote: post #65
backtoyoujim wrote: post #33

Once my house has a battery large enough to where I won't end up going ballistic on my energy company for having 24+ hour power outages I am fine with moving away from gas. But I am not going to live with losing power a dozen times a year for up to a day at a time because a corporation wants my life to be the tip of the misery spear instead of their profit margins taking a hit.

When you "go ballistic" are you verbally abusing a csr in a call center somewhere who already has an unpleasant and difficult job, or finding a way to apply pressure to someone who has some power to improve the situation?

Fitting your username that you would assume OP is verbally abusing someone at a call center.

Re: Gas stoves are more hazardous than we’ve been led to believe (2020)

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Post by snapplebobapple »

deepdmistry wrote: post #58
riddleronroof wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. These are opinion pieces with scary headlines. Almost nothing to back them up. Also strange to talk about developing countries having problems. They usually have chimneys. Hydrochlorides are there because of pans coated with them that burn them off. Guess what, they still end up in food no matter which heating you would use. So the problem is pans, not the heat. Cooking with fire is Lindy. And there is no ot…

Although i agree that gas cooktops have several advantages in cooking non westernized meals, rotis can definitely be made on induction. Been making them since many years now.

got a recipe/walkthrough? I love me some roti, am tired of paying for the stuff made in the big oven/cooker things though. I have an induction cooktop already.

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Post by norvvryo »

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #5

There was a bunch of articles about this in 2020. After looking into the data my conclusion is the threat is overblown (big surprise), a large part of it is from cooking of any kind (heating produces particulates) and that if you take some basic precautions (open a window, use vent fan) the risk is very low.

Even without those precautions, how does the risk compare to commuting to work by car five days a week? I imagine the risk of chronic effects is orders of magnitude less.

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Post by xtracto »

VirusNewbie wrote: post #74

Measuring an old gas stove in a tiny kitchen seems suspect, modern homes have kitchens in much larger open spaces. My kitchen is in quite a large great room with 11’ ceilings, in combination with running the fan I have a hard time believing it would cause the same issues as it does in some of the older small apartments.

In the USA... here in Mexico gas stoves are in the vast majority of homes.

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Post by legerdemain »

kstenerud wrote: post #42

Gas stoves are an anachronism anyway; good riddance to them. There has been no better time for electric-only cooking. Air fryers are FAR more energy efficient than ovens, and also cook faster. Sous-vide cookers are cheap and can cook certain dishes to perfection every time. Instant pot style pressure cookers cover most of the rest. And everyone already knows the convenience of microwave ovens. Unless you're cooking a…

Would you use a microwave, a sous vide apparatus, or an air fryer to make a Chinese-style stir fry? How about an omelet?

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Post by pseudo0 »

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #20
zeroonetwothree wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That seems pretty obvious from their construction. I don’t know anyone that uses a stove top kettle. It’s unfortunate that in the US our electric kettles are much slower than in the U.K.

I think it can be spread by word of mouth. I've already converted several friends and family over to electric kettles when they see how useful it is for coffee, tea, even for getting water boiled for cooking. The big question in my mind is whether the electric kettle itself is the "final form", or if I'll be proselytizing the same people in ten years to get an Asian style hot water heater/reservoir instead.

An induction-friendly stovetop kettle is a pretty great option as well, for those with induction burners. I have found it about as fast as an electric kettle, but it saves counter space, and won't have to be replaced every 1-5 years. Maybe I have just had bad luck with inexpensive electric kettles, but they kept dying on me.

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Post by Havoc »

VirusNewbie wrote: post #74

Measuring an old gas stove in a tiny kitchen seems suspect, modern homes have kitchens in much larger open spaces. My kitchen is in quite a large great room with 11’ ceilings, in combination with running the fan I have a hard time believing it would cause the same issues as it does in some of the older small apartments.

"larger open spaces" isn't going to save you unless it is open as in window open

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Post by alar44 »

kstenerud wrote: post #42

Gas stoves are an anachronism anyway; good riddance to them. There has been no better time for electric-only cooking. Air fryers are FAR more energy efficient than ovens, and also cook faster. Sous-vide cookers are cheap and can cook certain dishes to perfection every time. Instant pot style pressure cookers cover most of the rest. And everyone already knows the convenience of microwave ovens. Unless you're cooking a…

I don't think you'll find a single cook who would prefer electric. Literally no one.
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