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Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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Post by shkkmo »

zamadatix wrote: post #81
ushakov wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

how is Firefox half-baked? i'm using it every day along with Safari and don't see any significant differences

With something as wide scoped as a browser this inevitably comes down to "well the 200 things I think are relevant do/don't work the same in favor of a/b" out of tens of thousands, if not more, of things implemented. For me Firefox is about as good as any. Upsides here, downsides there, and nothing truly outstanding overall. It seems severely far behind in modern color (e.g. HDR videos or all of the wide gamut CSS sp…

Firefox on desktop is pertty solid, despite some controversial decisions.

Firedox on android has a lot of issues.

Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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Post by iamcurious »

shkkmo wrote: post #91
zamadatix wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With something as wide scoped as a browser this inevitably comes down to "well the 200 things I think are relevant do/don't work the same in favor of a/b" out of tens of thousands, if not more, of things implemented. For me Firefox is about as good as any. Upsides here, downsides there, and nothing truly outstanding overall. It seems severely far behind in modern color (e.g. HDR videos or all of the wide gamut CSS sp…

Firefox on desktop is pertty solid, despite some controversial decisions. Firedox on android has a lot of issues.

Which ones? On principle, I never use chrome on android. Am I missing some killer feature?

Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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Post by Retric »

meibo wrote: post #70
Retric wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last month Google announced 30 new security including critical vulnerabilities in chrome. They might be doing a great job at hardening, but they don’t have a great reputation.

What is that supposed to say about reputation? It's the most popular browser by far, and they actually do have a very publicized team that reports bugs to not just Chrome, but Apple and Mozilla as well. In my circles this is well respected, and personally, it inspires more confidence in the infrastructure around Chrome to me. I'd be wary of any "new" browser engines in unsafe languages.

> What is that supposed to say about reputation?

Just that people don’t consider chrome extremely secure, it may be acceptable 99% of the time, but it doesn’t get a free pass in extreme security environments.

Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

#94

Post by ThinkBeat »

"Arc Browser" is just Chromium + uBlock + some GUI enhancements

I really wish that articles about "new browsers" should state up front what (if anything) they are built on top of.

Each time I am hopeful that someone has taken on the monumental task of creating a new, better, or at least different web engine/ browser. The competition would be good.

The near impossible complexity in writing a new web browser from scratch seems indicative as to how broken the system has gotten.

Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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Post by ehhthing »

machinerychorus wrote: post #56

Darn, I was hoping this would be about https://arc.io . I know it's not very popular on hn because "how dare they use my bandwidth and cpu" but I think it's really cool. A viable business model for websites that doesn't require cramming things full of ads.

Thank you for introducing me to a wonderful privacy nightmare.

P2P networks inherently are not private: everyone on the network knows who else is on the network and what they are doing. Thus one bad node could collect data on others' browsing habits and track people quite easily.

Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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Post by kitsunesoba »

ThinkBeat wrote: post #94

"Arc Browser" is just Chromium + uBlock + some GUI enhancements I really wish that articles about "new browsers" should state up front what (if anything) they are built on top of. Each time I am hopeful that someone has taken on the monumental task of creating a new, better, or at least different web engine/ browser. The competition would be good. The near impossible complexity in writing a new web browser from scrat…

I agree. Yet Another Chromium Clone is not all that interesting, regardless of how its UI is dressed up, because realistically the browser's most core qualities are not going to differ significantly from those of any other Chrome-based browser.

Being forthcoming about the engine of choice will help people set reasonable expectations… it's not a revolution, it's Chrome with a new coat of paint.

Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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Post by zagrebian »

ThinkBeat wrote: post #94

"Arc Browser" is just Chromium + uBlock + some GUI enhancements I really wish that articles about "new browsers" should state up front what (if anything) they are built on top of. Each time I am hopeful that someone has taken on the monumental task of creating a new, better, or at least different web engine/ browser. The competition would be good. The near impossible complexity in writing a new web browser from scrat…

> Each time I am hopeful that someone has taken on the monumental task of creating a new, better, or at least different web engine/ browser. The competition would be good.

What would be the benefit of having a browser with a new web engine?

Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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Post by LegitShady »

zagrebian wrote: post #98
ThinkBeat wrote: post #94

"Arc Browser" is just Chromium + uBlock + some GUI enhancements I really wish that articles about "new browsers" should state up front what (if anything) they are built on top of. Each time I am hopeful that someone has taken on the monumental task of creating a new, better, or at least different web engine/ browser. The competition would be good. The near impossible complexity in writing a new web browser from scrat…

> Each time I am hopeful that someone has taken on the monumental task of creating a new, better, or at least different web engine/ browser. The competition would be good. What would be the benefit of having a browser with a new web engine?

Competition and funding for non chromium initiatives.

If someoone had asked the same question before chrome would you have agreed with them?

Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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Post by CharlesW »

zagrebian wrote: post #98
ThinkBeat wrote: post #94

"Arc Browser" is just Chromium + uBlock + some GUI enhancements I really wish that articles about "new browsers" should state up front what (if anything) they are built on top of. Each time I am hopeful that someone has taken on the monumental task of creating a new, better, or at least different web engine/ browser. The competition would be good. The near impossible complexity in writing a new web browser from scrat…

> Each time I am hopeful that someone has taken on the monumental task of creating a new, better, or at least different web engine/ browser. The competition would be good. What would be the benefit of having a browser with a new web engine?

> What would be the benefit of having a browser with a new web engine?

This is the right question. The answer is probably what you're thinking: Absolutely nothing. It'd be a giant waste of time to spend 5 years rebuilding plumbing instead of focusing on where one can actually differentiate.

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