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Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by prox »

dools wrote: post #61
hnlmorg wrote: post #45

FireFox Containers are a killer feature for me. It allows you to run sandboxed sessions. So you can ostensibly make every site a private tab by default but have a small few sites persistent. Eg I’ll have a work group with GitHub, Okta, etc in it so I only need to log in once a day. But random websites cannot track me between sites. Couple that with DNS blocking of trackers and ads, and the web is actually a lot more…

The ability to have separate sessions was actually the reason I switched to chrome many years ago, looks like it’s time to give Firefox another look

I hope you become a full time user, lets curb the direction Google wants to go in.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by kevincox »

zelphirkalt wrote: post #78
dools wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The ability to have separate sessions was actually the reason I switched to chrome many years ago, looks like it’s time to give Firefox another look

Although Firefox had profiles for ages and you could start Firefox with the profile manager and "new instance allowed" to choose a profile at the start of each new instance. More hidden then in Chromium, but definitely possible. EDIT: Just for completeness sake, here is the command to open Firefox with profile manager and new instances: firefox --new-instance --ProfileManager %u

Yes, but with this UX it may as well not exist for 99% of users. Container tabs while still a little power-user is something that can be explained to the average user.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by toastal »

frankzander wrote: post #28

Using Firefox all the time ... Brave seems also to be a reasonable alternative. But I just don't like the Dev tools in Chrome ... The FF ones are way better (IMHO). At the end it seems so that FF isn't blocking a lot of tracking by default while Brave do so. But FF with uBlockOrigin is a good match for privacy.

uBlock Origin can do a lot more than people think too... easy opt-in to JavaScript, cleaning tracking tokens from the URL, and allowing me to block features from websites trying to be a bit too 'social' or 'recommendy'. Fx will be skipping the part of the latest WebManifest that cripples uBlock's ability to block as well.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by kwhitefoot »

TekMol wrote: post #67
sph wrote: post #30

I honestly want to ditch Firefox and try a Chromium browser for a minute [1], but I'm stuck on Firefox because it's the only one with a killer feature: send a tab to/from iOS and my Linux desktop. I skip Chrome and Edge for privacy reasons, Brave have a crappy and buggy sync feature that I don't know what OSes it supports, but not my combination. Can't send tabs with them. Vivaldi doesn't have an iOS port. Impossible…

finding a cool article while I'm sitting on the couch and sending it to my desktop so I can read it later Isn't that just a link? I solve this by having a list of links on the web that I can access from everywhere.

Firefox can share history and bookmarks with other instances running on other machines even if the other is not running at the time and you don't need to do anything to make it happen once you have set it up.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by kkfx »

I mainly use Firefox, because of vertical tabs (Tab Center Reborn), Reader, TPRB/NoScript etc BUT sometimes I fall back on Chromium simply because I want to access a webcrapplication that does not work and I do not want to dig how many js and co I have to allow to make it works...

Yes, I can use still FF with different profiles, but I'm simply a bit too lazy for that...

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by andinus »

detritus wrote: post #66
hnlmorg wrote: post #45

FireFox Containers are a killer feature for me. It allows you to run sandboxed sessions. So you can ostensibly make every site a private tab by default but have a small few sites persistent. Eg I’ll have a work group with GitHub, Okta, etc in it so I only need to log in once a day. But random websites cannot track me between sites. Couple that with DNS blocking of trackers and ads, and the web is actually a lot more…

I'm a big fan of multi-account containers.. or at least, was. Recently I inadvertantly added a domain to one of the ascribed containers on my laptop and I'll be damned if I can work out how to undo it, other than uninstalling and starting over, which'll be a pain, because I've customised it quite a bit. ...This is a plea for help, by the way, in case it wasn't obvious :) I'm sure there must be a json file or somethin…

Multi-Accounts Container Version: 8.0.7

You can click on "Manage Containers", choose a container and then remove the site with "Manage Site List".

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by stragies »

commoner wrote: post #86
stragies wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, I meant, they make it look like you could do this all easily without external clouds, but then the Identity-server, which I cannot imagine to be much more complicated w.r.t. functionality that e.g. a Samba4 AD-DC, is/was(last time i checked) basically undocumented and looked intentionally overbuilt (again, comparing with e.g. Samba4-AD). And not open-source (iirc). Also, why can't I use a standard Directory Serve…

The Firefox Sync Storage source code, licensed under MPL-2.0 and fully documented, is right here: https://github.com/mozilla-services/syncstorage-rs It includes a Docker Compose setup. Standard directory servers aren't specifically built for end-to-end encryption, while data in Firefox Sync is end-to-end encrypted by default. Firefox Sync must also scale to support the millions of Firefox users who use Mozilla's inst…

Hi, thanks for replying with information. You seem to more than me about the current situation, i'm happy to learn more.

So the above (synstorage-rs_in_container) is now the only required software needed, and now includes the identity-server portion?

I would really like to use the "beam-a-tab-to-some-other-firefox", been a FF user since before it got that name. But i wanted to self-host all parts, and then found some info, that suggested, that 2 parts are needed: the SyncServer, the above open-source thing, and the Identity-server, on which i did not find much info at the time.

Do you have a link to recent-ish write-up of the current situation, that you can validate to be correct-ish?

Thanks again

Also, w.r.t Directory-Servers/Security: Enterprise printers have been able to authenticate Users with SSL/TLS-secured connection for more than a decade. So why not a "syncserver for URLs of open tabs per User"?

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by prox »

8organicbits wrote: post #32
formerly_proven wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I usually have 60-70 tabs open across 5-6 windows. Firefox absolutely shits itself all the time but Chromium doesn't. Last time I checked I had a few thousand tabs open with Firefox and it doesn't do anything except use memory.

I'm always curious about the use case of having so many open tabs. Is there some context you work in where so many tabs are needed? Are you able to find already open tabs, or do you just end up with 50 hacker news tabs because you just open new ones? Do you actually look at each tab, or do you open in the background and never load them? Are you using extensions to make tabs management easier, like tree style tabs? On…

Yeah, using is 40 tabs is weird to me. Here is my strategy, just have current tabs open that are relevant for my computing session.

When I need something else that I visited, I use the history shortcut, search for the word (usually its in the title) and I got the info I need. Same with bookmarks which I usually tag.

So many tabs just seems redundant I feel.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by kevincox »

lionkor wrote: post #81
hn_user145 wrote: post #36

The only thing missing on Firefox for me is the ability to translate websites inline. Otherwise Firefox+ multi-account containers + proxy per container is a really nice feature

there is an addon which integrates very cleanly, they should just merge that into the browser

For me it is rare enough that I just paste the URL into Google translate manually.
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