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Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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The 16:9 screen is an immediate turn off for me. on a machine of this size that extra screen real estate you get with 16:10 or even 3:2 is important to me. Shame too, because this could be the perfect machine for me.

Yeah it's a bit of a joke at this point, especially for a device marketed to developers. To me it screams cost cutting. If Lenovo and Dell can start to go back to taller displays then HP certainly can too.

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I'm pretty sure it's decently common; Red Hat certainly does it, Ubuntu is nice and keeps a wiki page of what derivatives need to change and when ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DerivativeDistroHowto#Trademarks ), opensuse has https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Trademark_guidelines#Distri... to discuss how much you can use their trademarks, and even Debian has a trademark policy - https://www.debian.org/trademark - although…

I guess you would have to trademark your logo to stop people from slapping it on things that don't even use the product. It's nice to explicitly spell out that you won't actually go after people who aren't doing anything silly.

I dunno, I can see value in saying "If it says ThisDistroName then it is actually this specific build of these components from these people, and anyone else can use the code but they have to call their version something else so there's no confusion." If that wasn't how it worked, I could just make "Ubuntu X" or something that used a lot of Ubuntu but mixed in unstable changes and adware and whatever else I wanted and ride off the Ubuntu name.

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Inverted-T is a good layout for the most part, but I think IBM/Lenovo have suckered me into their 3x2 arrow cluster. Having pgup and pgdown so close to a single hand really helps me fly through docs and PDFs.

What is the IBM/Lenovo layout for their arrow keys?

Inverted-T with page up and page down in the two "holes", forming a 2x3 grid of equally sized keys

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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What is with those arrow keys? Who wants double wide half height up and down keys? 2 x 0.5 does not equal one full sized key. Am I really to believe that relabeling the win key to super is some sort of engineering feat?

True, those double width keys will really screw with your muscle memory even more than the regular half-height ones, especially when you're frequently switching to an external keyboard.

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I use the right shift key to type capital letters on the left side of the keyboard since I type with ten fingers. I suspect most people do that?

I often type them on the left side with one hand holding the shift and typing. It's not as hard as it sounds.

Chording isn’t hard but my hands cramp faster when I do it. I’m working on a Karabiner config to force me to use right modifiers.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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This isn’t a laptop I would personally buy for many of the reasons others have put in this thread, but it’s incredible to see such a focused SKU from HP here.

This will likely be a small volume product and it is almost certainly based on something else in the HP portfolio (advantage of being such a huge OEM), but it’s nice to see a developer marketed laptop in this way. And running a distro other than straight Ubuntu or Red Hat, even.

To me, this indicates that the market research teams at HP have seen the success of Framework and the various Clevo/Sager/Tongfang machines from Tuxedo, System76, XMG, etc. to see this as a viable market worth testing. Obviously, Dell has been doing this for years with the XPS Developer Edition or whatever they call it now, but it is nice to see a product from one of the other big laptop makers.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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What is with those arrow keys? Who wants double wide half height up and down keys? 2 x 0.5 does not equal one full sized key. Am I really to believe that relabeling the win key to super is some sort of engineering feat?

And the power button sitting just above backspace. Point me to a dev who doesn't use backspace about as much as they do the return key ;-)

Yeah it's very hopeful there is a delay built in when pressing that, like Apple does.
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