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Re: Happy Birthday, Libera Chat

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Post by grvgr »

dspillett wrote: post #66
grvgr wrote: post #53

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Hello, thank you for taking the time to read. If you read my tweets since December 21, 2021 ( I worked for PIA VPN for 5 years before it was bought by Kape. They're scammers.

>* They're scammers.* Given all the not-false-but-absolutely-misleading advertising I see/hear for VPN providers¹, I suspect they are all scammers or as near to as makes no odds. [1] including in sponsored segments in the output of technical influenzas who don't help their reputation in my view by parroting the words themselves instead of letting the sponsor do it, or by being more choosy about exactly what they are…

You are correct, scammers is too mild a term to describe criminal racketeers like Lee.

Re: Happy Birthday, Libera Chat

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Post by CodeArtisan »

jolmg wrote: post #67
INTPenis wrote: post #56

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What are you basing this on? I'm not trying to be difficult, I have used IRC since the 90s and still use it. It's just the best format for chat imo. But my observation is also that it's dying slowly.

> But my observation is also that it's dying slowly. Is it? I'm not on it every day, but I don't really notice a change. Isn't it just that it isn't growing, at least not as much as the explosions of web-based, proprietary platforms like twitter or slack?

https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php

In 2004, top 10 networks had together around one million of users. now, it's around 150 000.

Top reason of this decline is gamers leaving the network. Quakenet and GameSurge had like 300K users together, now less than 10K (and probably mostly bots or bouncers).

Re: Happy Birthday, Libera Chat

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Post by rkangel »

I'm going to take this opportunity to point out that (for me at least) the best IRC client is Matrix. They offer a bridge to Libera.chat, and that then sets up a Matrix "room" for each IRC channel you join.

You then get a consistent session, that all history automatically, with clients for every platform. Plus you're on Matrix which is a good thing :)

Re: Happy Birthday, Libera Chat

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Post by Crosseye_Jack »

jokoon wrote: post #78

I wonder if discord might threaten IRC, it seems that is not the case. There are two servers dedicated to the c++ language.

While I use discord (because thats what my online gaming buddies use) my main issue is discord is that they disallow alt clients https://twitter.com/discord/status/1229357198918197248

My main gripe if the offical client is the lack of multi account support, Yeah I know it has an account switcher but a) its only desktop atm b) you only get notifactions from the account you are currently using. The "workaround" is to multi-client.

The thing is with IRC, its a protocol, so any client supporting the protocol works, If one client doesn't support the features you want you can swap to another, if no client supports the feature you want you can hack it onto an existing one / create your own.

Re: Happy Birthday, Libera Chat

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Post by teh_klev »

endorphine wrote: post #80
FoxbrushTailwag wrote: post #40

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Hi, one of the blog authors here, Fuchs. My initial draft did include a sentence about freenode in the first paragraph, but after a short internal discussion we decided to remove that, so I rewrote that part. Rather easy and quick, actually. Now on the why: Libera was a clear cut. Reasons for that are different per person affected, but include e.g. a lot of pain to see what has become of something we put years in, wa…

I'm completely uninitiated to this topic but I'll give it a shot from what I've read in this and the parent comment: It seems like there's some denial about the past/roots of Libera, in this blog post. The "acceptance" phase is yet to come.

> It seems like there's some denial about the past/roots of Libera

I'd disagree. There are some coals that no longer need to be continually raked.

Re: Happy Birthday, Libera Chat

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Post by blibble »

grvgr wrote: post #50
GekkePrutser wrote: post #10

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I wonder if they're afraid Lee might sue them if they did or something Edit: Or maybe they don't want to drag the whole drama into this celebration again :) Libera moved on so quickly that even after 2 months it felt like everything was in the distant past and the community was just as it had always been. But then it would have been better to not elaborate on the history. I agree it's a bit weird like this.

He can try, it will not end well. https://twitter.com/grvgr/status/1526971545356214275

last time he even threatened them with legal action he managed to get them to transfer the domain name and everything else to him

(so I was told)

Re: Happy Birthday, Libera Chat

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Post by blibble »

bsnal wrote: post #49
someotherperson wrote: post #25

I think Freenode helped serve as a lesson to rasengan on a few things: 1. Technical prowess doesn't supersede the value of interpersonal/social abilities 2. Money doesn't let you control the narrative in a free system 3. Elon Musk isn't Elon Musk because he's rich, he's Elon Musk because he's good at marketing 4. Reputation is everything It's a shame that the cost of these lessons was the destruction of Freenode and…

I was there and rasengan handled it extremely poorly. He could've taken over the network and most people wouldn't have moved out if he didn't screw so many things up.

it was almost a masterclass on how not to do it

all he had to do was change the top level administration and keep quiet for a few months, at which point he could have implemented his changes slowly

Re: Happy Birthday, Libera Chat

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Post by bsnal »

blibble wrote: post #97
bsnal wrote: post #49

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I was there and rasengan handled it extremely poorly. He could've taken over the network and most people wouldn't have moved out if he didn't screw so many things up.

it was almost a masterclass on how not to do it all he had to do was change the top level administration and keep quiet for a few months, at which point he could have implemented his changes slowly

He is not right in the head, that's pretty clear from all that he's said and done. What I mean to say is that someone sane could've handled it well. iirc freenode was already "taken over" by the guy who sold it to rasengan years ago and nobody noticed.

Re: Happy Birthday, Libera Chat

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Post by grvgr »

blibble wrote: post #96
grvgr wrote: post #50

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He can try, it will not end well. https://twitter.com/grvgr/status/1526971545356214275

last time he even threatened them with legal action he managed to get them to transfer the domain name and everything else to him (so I was told)

Yes, I understand. They prey on the weak, but we are not weak.

They have also threatened me several times over many years.

They will not last long now.

https://gauravgiri.com/for-the-record/an-abusive-relationshi...

Re: Happy Birthday, Libera Chat

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Post by fullstop »

jolmg wrote: post #42
fps_doug wrote: post #33

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As fast as people who grew up with it die ;-)

Slower probably. I doubt there aren't new people getting into IRC. You could've made your comment back when I just got into it, and IRC doesn't really seem any more dead now.

Most of the people that I find on IRC are 40+.
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