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Reversing Lens-Induced Myopia (2018)

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Re: Reversing Lens-Induced Myopia (2018)

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I move my screen back and don't wear glasses during work. I also have an eye chart hanging in front of me across the room. I stuck to near-far focus exercises for about 6 months at some point. My eyesight has not improved. I do notice completely different ability to read the chart during the day - sometimes I can read letters 5x smaller than the large letters, and sometimes I can barely read the large letters. Sunlig…

How old are you? My toy model is that age-related stiffening of the lens causes fatigue in the eye muscles through the day.

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Re: Reversing Lens-Induced Myopia (2018)

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Ophthalmologist here. The myopia epidemic is real thing. The advice given in this post is not a dangerous thing to try. However, I doubt that the theory is true, and I doubt that following this method will really help myopic patients. Let's try to justify this point : "The long-term use of over-correcting glasses induces myopia" This is quite true. But it induces a myopia which is reversible. Overcorrection (which we…

Is it recommended to get two different pairs of glasses for both near sightedness and far sightedness? I have a -3.5D with astigmatism as well. I get the feeling I'd require only less powered glasses for screen time as opposed to using my regular glasses for it. What is your professional opinion about this?

Re: Reversing Lens-Induced Myopia (2018)

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The problem is that you can't measure axial length with an autorefractometer. You need a biometer. The autoref will tell you the objective refraction of the patient (which is quite imprecise). The eyeball gets longer with time in high (pathological) myopia. Serious surgeons will check that the myopia is stable (1-2 years) before doing a surgery. The eye doesn't, usually, gets longer in patients with moderated myopia.…

Even for pathological patients, the solution is to reset their eye with e.g LASIK and to prevent growth via bilberry. It's non-prescription is one instance of the universal established deep mediocrity https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6296196/

Does it help to eat bilberries rather than the extract?

Re: Reversing Lens-Induced Myopia (2018)

#94
My mother did not want me to have glasses as kid, because glasses damage your eyes. It is a scam of the optometrists. They sell you glasses to damage your eyes, so they can sell you even more glasses later.

So when I became nearsighted, I did not wear glasses until I was almost an adult.

The myopia remained rather stable with -1 to -1.5 D. Which fits the distance of the computer screen. It was very unhealthy that I spend 12 h a day programming thinking I was a professional teenage software engineer.

But I got really bad astigmatism with -3.4 D according to an aberrometer.

Perhaps myopia turns into astigmatism if you squint too much?

Re: Reversing Lens-Induced Myopia (2018)

#95

My mother did not want me to have glasses as kid, because glasses damage your eyes. It is a scam of the optometrists. They sell you glasses to damage your eyes, so they can sell you even more glasses later. So when I became nearsighted, I did not wear glasses until I was almost an adult. The myopia remained rather stable with -1 to -1.5 D. Which fits the distance of the computer screen. It was very unhealthy that I s…

> Perhaps myopia turns into astigmatism if you squint too much?

In my case no. I started with -2.5 for myopia, and was squinting pretty hard for a few months before that. Had no astigmatism

Then I got a bad habit of scratching my eyes whenever I slept too little time. While this happened my astigmatism increased by 0.25 D each year, for 4 years in a row

Re: Reversing Lens-Induced Myopia (2018)

#96

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Even for pathological patients, the solution is to reset their eye with e.g LASIK and to prevent growth via bilberry. It's non-prescription is one instance of the universal established deep mediocrity https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6296196/

Does it help to eat bilberries rather than the extract?

I don't know but you have to understand that in general, extracts achieve effective concentrations that are impossible to achieve naturally. Moreover, a pill is easy to take consistently in the morning, while eating a bunch of billberries every morning is a chore. Consistency is key for the goal. I guess eating bilberries is better than nothing, you'd have to study the extract to infer how many bilberries per pill it represent.

Re: Reversing Lens-Induced Myopia (2018)

#97
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Ophthalmologist here. The myopia epidemic is real thing. The advice given in this post is not a dangerous thing to try. However, I doubt that the theory is true, and I doubt that following this method will really help myopic patients. Let's try to justify this point : "The long-term use of over-correcting glasses induces myopia" This is quite true. But it induces a myopia which is reversible. Overcorrection (which we…

The site alleges that there are a number of positive self-treating anecdotes found on the internet. Is there a medically justified explanation for these? (It's ok if not -- an alternative is that they're cranks or lying, both of which are very plausible). What is the minimum vision improvement from behavioural adjustment that would be medically surprising to you?

They might just have a wrong prescription initially

When they spend more time on getting prescriptions and multiple opinions, they get better prescriptions.

Re: Reversing Lens-Induced Myopia (2018)

#98
post #5

Ophthalmologist here. The myopia epidemic is real thing. The advice given in this post is not a dangerous thing to try. However, I doubt that the theory is true, and I doubt that following this method will really help myopic patients. Let's try to justify this point : "The long-term use of over-correcting glasses induces myopia" This is quite true. But it induces a myopia which is reversible. Overcorrection (which we…

Is it recommended to get two different pairs of glasses for both near sightedness and far sightedness? I have a -3.5D with astigmatism as well. I get the feeling I'd require only less powered glasses for screen time as opposed to using my regular glasses for it. What is your professional opinion about this?

I am not the expert you are replying to, and I have only anecdotal evidence. But for what it is worth, I have been using "computer glasses", which are midway between my reading- and distance vision prescriptions, for more than 10 years. I find that this prescription reduces eyestrain very significantly, and I can easily spend a whole day in front of the screen without fatigue.

Re: Reversing Lens-Induced Myopia (2018)

#99
post #95

My mother did not want me to have glasses as kid, because glasses damage your eyes. It is a scam of the optometrists. They sell you glasses to damage your eyes, so they can sell you even more glasses later. So when I became nearsighted, I did not wear glasses until I was almost an adult. The myopia remained rather stable with -1 to -1.5 D. Which fits the distance of the computer screen. It was very unhealthy that I s…

> Perhaps myopia turns into astigmatism if you squint too much? In my case no. I started with -2.5 for myopia, and was squinting pretty hard for a few months before that. Had no astigmatism Then I got a bad habit of scratching my eyes whenever I slept too little time. While this happened my astigmatism increased by 0.25 D each year, for 4 years in a row

I do not do scratching.

But perhaps sleeping on the stomach is bad

Re: Reversing Lens-Induced Myopia (2018)

#100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it recommended to get two different pairs of glasses for both near sightedness and far sightedness? I have a -3.5D with astigmatism as well. I get the feeling I'd require only less powered glasses for screen time as opposed to using my regular glasses for it. What is your professional opinion about this?

I am not the expert you are replying to, and I have only anecdotal evidence. But for what it is worth, I have been using "computer glasses", which are midway between my reading- and distance vision prescriptions, for more than 10 years. I find that this prescription reduces eyestrain very significantly, and I can easily spend a whole day in front of the screen without fatigue.

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