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Lufthansa’s European Union Strasbourg “shuttle”

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Re: Lufthansa’s European Union Strasbourg “shuttle”

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It makes my blood boil to think these frequent flyer politicians are the same people demanding action against climate change.

My blood boils on receiving the bamboo or papper drink straw, which immediately soaks and becomes useless. Wonder if they use them on these flights that would surely help limiting the carbon footprint.

Perhaps you could just drink out of a cup and be less sensitive to minor inconveniences?

Re: Lufthansa’s European Union Strasbourg “shuttle”

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It makes my blood boil to think these frequent flyer politicians are the same people demanding action against climate change.

I just really don't get this. It's "gotcha" thinking and "if they don't live perfect austerie lifestyles they cannot change climate policies". Leave out that High Ranking government officials travel with security, press, aides, etc. Yes it's wasteful, but it's likely the safest, fastest and easiest method to gather decision makers. It's such the long tail of carbon output on the climate emergency. Additionally, these…

How exactly is an expectation of consistent messaging regarding policy "gotcha" thinking? I also don't see anywhere where it's being suggested that politicians need to live "perfect austere lifestyles." This is a false dichotomy. There is no reason they couldn't book business class on the train.

Re: Lufthansa’s European Union Strasbourg “shuttle”

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And by a comment on the page, the flight also takes not only MEPs but members of the EC as well

One assumes that since it has an LH flight number, anyone who wants to pay for it could book the flight.

Possibly, but not necessarily (based only on the flight number).

Fun fact, all flights (from commercial airlines) have a flight number, but those are not always sold. They might be charters or ferry/repositioning flights. (And while it might make sense to sell a repositioning flight - sometimes it's done on short notice or the airline doesn't want to assign cabin crew to those flights)

Re: Lufthansa’s European Union Strasbourg “shuttle”

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So while this flight sounds a bit ridiculous it's not really. It takes of in Frankfurt and which is a big hub. You can buy a ticket VIE->FRA->SXB for 1000 EUR in Business class. It takes you three hours to get there. The cheapest ticket not involving a train in business class is 850 EUR so barely cheaper and takes 5.5 hours. As to why the plane does not take passengers on the return flight: it's a 30 minute flight an…

> You can buy a ticket VIE->FRA->SXB for 1000 EUR in Business class.

There's your problem. Put them in economy. That adds 50% more seats to the flight AND saves money.

Or rather, reimburse them for economy and let them decide whether they want to pay more.

Re: Lufthansa’s European Union Strasbourg “shuttle”

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In most European airlines short haul business class is just economy seats with the middle blocked off and slightly better food. This means they can dynamically adjust the size of business class on a per flight basis. So "a huge business class cabin" is misleading here.

You're directly saying that business class seats on these flights take 150% more space than economy class. I think you're trying to argue that it's not actually as comfortable as business class, but the objectionable thing about business class is not that people are more comfortable, it's the wasted space. And the wasted space seems equivalent. I'm not looking for asceticism here, my hope is to minimize pollution. Of…

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Re: Lufthansa’s European Union Strasbourg “shuttle”

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Ultimately, it seems like the price of carbon is not high enough to offset an entire cabin of business class seats of €1K+ each. If you want the behavior to stop, increase the price of carbon. It’s all about the money in the end.

I’ve seen many references to “business class” here as if it were something special and thus worthy of additional scrutiny. On Lufthansa short haul flights, business is economy with the middle seats blocked.

I mean, what it is doesn’t really matter if people are willing to pay €1k each, however silly it may be.

Re: Lufthansa’s European Union Strasbourg “shuttle”

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> keep adding more capitals into the rotation, until the overhead of any capital is negligible In what world is maintaining multiple headquarters cheaper than one?

The more capitals you have, the less you need to proportionately increase your budget to add another one.

This guy bureaucrats.

Re: Lufthansa’s European Union Strasbourg “shuttle”

#99
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It seems EU politicians believe in climate change, until they have to catch a bus for a couple of hours… BTW, I am a EU citizen worried about climate change and tired of recycling at home to sometimes see this kind of hypocrisy of some politicians.

Air transport account for less than 4% of the 51 b tons of CO2 we send every year. These politicians aren’t going to make any difference. We could ask them to be role models, but with what finality? Again air transport is not the most urgent problem. I understand this is a topic that can be used to raise awareness, but the most useful thing these politicians could do is to rethink the way (EU) businesses are leading…

That is exactly my point.

Then don’t try to convince me to separate my waste at home, because when you ask what is the true impact of it they say it is small but the sum of small efforts is what matters. Or is it that some are exempt of it?

Re: Lufthansa’s European Union Strasbourg “shuttle”

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Don't blame Lufthansa, blame the EU institutions and the French government for creating this bizarre nomadism of EU parliamentarians.

It makes my blood boil to think these frequent flyer politicians are the same people demanding action against climate change.

I doubt it's the same ones, but it would be good for a journalist to take the flight and see if there are any hypocritical Green politicians, etc.

(Or check expense claims if they have that detail public.)

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