If it makes anyone feel better my creativity peaks at about doing paint by number. Somehow I got a 92 (98.6 percentile)
Divergent Association Task: Fast creativity test
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#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Just because it says "a noun" doesn't make it one word. In fact, it literally does, because "a" refers to a single entity. > That's like saying "brown pants" is one word. No, it is not at all like saying "brown pants" because in order for a word to be an open compound word the modifying adjective has to create a new noun. For example, 'living room' is an open compound word, while "brown room" is not. If you have tr…
I'm aware of what an open compound is, and I still say chow mein isn't one of them. Show me a dictionary that actually refers to it as such. Furthermore since it's a borrow word, usually the "compoundness" comes with the borrow, and it's most definitely two words in Cantonese. > the site explicitly tells you to select "nouns" It says to select 10 nouns. It says "Only single words in English". It also doesn't allow "L…
> Show me a dictionary that actually refers to it as such.
Here you go: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/chow-mein
Note how it is listed as "noun", not nouns.
Just like living room: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/living-room
Note that there is no entry for "brown pants". Do you understand why both living room and chow mein are listed, but brown pants isn't?
> and it's most definitely two words in English.
No, it is not. Again, consult a dictionary.
> It says to select 10 nouns.
Yes, and "chow mein" is a noun. That the site doesn't seem to allow open compounds, but allows highly technical wording (despite saying to not use technical wording) would seemingly be a bug.
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#93I scored 90.56 with: cake, car, amoeba, rhombus, dew, atmosphere, heartbreak The words closest to each other were amoeba/rhombus and the most distant were rhombus/car
I think that tells you a lot about their metric... dew and atmosphere are a lot more related than amoebae and rhombi...
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you're writing a story and trying to flesh out a character, someone who leases an olive drab Jeep is likely (a) someone who has money and (b) someone who likes to go off-roading, or at least give the appearance of being rough-and-tumble. Olive drab is also a color commonly associated with military usage, so that plays into it. On the other hand, you could have a character who owns a lime Honda Insight. That is an…
> And yet both characters could be said to have a green car. But the more detailed word choices can help give the story more life. Given that 'green' encompasses _all_ of the scenarios you describe, whereas olive/lime narrows the scenario, that would then seemingly be an argument that more specific words actually inhibit creativity by limiting the potential scenarios you can imagine with just a 'green' car.
I believe one of the ideas behind the evaluation is being creative enough to be able to imagine the scenario with those details, and then being able to select the words that best fit the scenario you've created. If you know words that encompass more disparate concepts, then the "cognitive distance" between them is greater. If you haven't told us which shade of green the car is, how do we know that you're not imagining everything to be the same shade?
If you're the most creative person in the world, but are incapable of expressing yourself, are you actually creative? It could be the same logic as "I've never played this game, therefore I have never lost, therefore I am the best in the world "
All this being said, I'm not trying to necessarily defend the usefulness of this survey. By their nature, none of these tests for "creativity", "intelligence", or "personality" will ever be able to perfectly capture or categorize or numerically label what is at heart a subjective quality.
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#95Two observations: 1) people who seem to have gotten the highest scores are not following directions properly (e.g. someone on Twitter who got >98 used decidedly technical terms like "codec", despite clear instructions not to use technical jargon) 2) this seems to measure how extensive your vocabulary is (e.g. obscure noncommon words seem to score much higher than common words, even though the common words may be quit…
My guess: High vocabulary is correlated with high Openness to Experience (a personality trait in the 5-factor model). Openness in turn correlates with creativity.
I will note that Openness to Experience can be broken down into two aspects: Intellect* and simple Openness. The former is more closely correlated with vocabulary, whereas the latter is more associated with creativity. Thus I also have some doubts about the quality of this test.
*Intellect here does not mean intelligence (though there is a modest correlation). In this case it just means a preference for intellectual activity.
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#96The site states that this tests only a sliver of the creativity process, but the comments seem to be taking this as a very hard metric(with a lot of negativity).
Creativity can come from being able to fuse unrelated ideas from different topics into a novel outcome, and it seems like this test just tries to boil that down into a 10 word puzzle, which is obviously not going to be a fool proof method, but could be interesting when data is aggregated.
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#97Two observations: 1) people who seem to have gotten the highest scores are not following directions properly (e.g. someone on Twitter who got >98 used decidedly technical terms like "codec", despite clear instructions not to use technical jargon) 2) this seems to measure how extensive your vocabulary is (e.g. obscure noncommon words seem to score much higher than common words, even though the common words may be quit…
> used decidedly technical terms like "codec", despite clear instructions not to use technical jargon
Words that are too technical are invalid and not used. Either “codec” is not too technical or it was not used in the score calculation.
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#98I'm not so sure this is any good measure. From running it a few times it's easy to get an very high score if you pick extremely specific words that are not often used together. For example the words "Chair" and "Mountain" have a score of 78. While the words "String" and "Quark" have a score of 86. "String" and "Quark" are much, much more related though via String theory then a chair and a mountain. Basically if you k…
1) No specialised vocabulary
2) Only the first score is valid, as they recognize that gaming the test is much easier after the first go.
So maybe instead of “string” or “quark” you go “physics”. I may be wrong, but I think having very general knowledge over different topics will spur more creative thinking because specific knowledge will be less likely to be helpful in a completely different domain(not 100% of the time obv, but just a personal thought and generalization).
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#99Having taken the test and scoring an average 73 or so and then looking at the Twitter high rankings this is definitely rigged against simple terms. Yet the criteria “No specialised vocabulary (e.g., no technical terms)” should rule out a lot of words. Words like moon and elephant will get you an average score but using those words are following the criteria closely. Is it really an accurate test when you can look at…
> Is it really an accurate test when you can look at other results and then score 90+ 5 minutes later?
It lets you repeat the test but only the first one is used in the study.
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#100I got 96.14 with singularity, earwax, toilet, verbatim, popular, palladium, and stegosaurus. Though palladium maybe breaks the technical rule?
verbatim and popular break the noun rule.