Perhaps allowing modern MBAs to cost optimize most every single thing we do isn't the best way to assure mid and long term security and profitability.
Maximising profit by cutting down wages and personnel is not a MBA specific problem.
Report: 90% of nurses considering leaving the profession in the next year
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Re: Report: 90% of nurses considering leaving the profession in the next year
#92While it's anecdote, every single peer in bedside medical care I know without exception has either left the field, or has immediate plans to as soon as student loan debt is repaid. The few older medical professionals in my family are simply sticking out the last few years until they can retire early. This was generally the case prior to pandemic due to how poor the work environment has become, but the pandemic seems…
Insurance companies. Everything is controlled by insurance companies. You can’t do anything unless it’s exactly how insurance wants and only for what insurance will pay. It limits everything, including how every profession can be compensated simply because you can’t easily hire somebody for more than what insurance will pay for their services. You can, but the funds have to come from somewhere.
A lot of it has to do with size and the complexity that goes along with it. So, as hospitals get bigger, do more, and increase in size and complexity these issues become worse.
The economics math even mirrors factories... a factory that can build 100 things compared to one that just produces one thing.
The book was enlightening, even though many of the time frames called out in the book were wrong. Disrupting medicine is a lot harder than something like technology.
Re: Report: 90% of nurses considering leaving the profession in the next year
#93I've spent a fair amount of time talking with nurses about the problems. I'm related to a bunch of people who are nurses across disciplines (ER, ICU, med/surg, etc). It's been enlightening hearing them talk about the problems... 1. Many new nurses make the same or more and long time nurses. It's frustrating when the nurse in charge with the most experience is making less than new nurses. Some hospitals are even tryin…
> 2. Patients in COVID have become downright mean. Add this to the problems nurses have management and doctors (who are often rude and arrogant) and it's a poor culture. The quality of the environment, from a mental health standpoint, is on the decline. Mean customers, and rude coworkers? I sympathize, but this is a reality in a lot of industries. I have no reason to believe that healthcare here is worse than average…
Re: Report: 90% of nurses considering leaving the profession in the next year
#94While it's anecdote, every single peer in bedside medical care I know without exception has either left the field, or has immediate plans to as soon as student loan debt is repaid. The few older medical professionals in my family are simply sticking out the last few years until they can retire early. This was generally the case prior to pandemic due to how poor the work environment has become, but the pandemic seems…
I'm friends with quite a few nurses, primarily travel nurses, and not a single one is considering a change in career that I am aware of. Simply an anecdotal counterpoint and nothing more.
Re: Report: 90% of nurses considering leaving the profession in the next year
#95I've spent a fair amount of time talking with nurses about the problems. I'm related to a bunch of people who are nurses across disciplines (ER, ICU, med/surg, etc). It's been enlightening hearing them talk about the problems... 1. Many new nurses make the same or more and long time nurses. It's frustrating when the nurse in charge with the most experience is making less than new nurses. Some hospitals are even tryin…
20 minutes later (while my mom was well on her way into work) the phone rang again- it was a false alarm, she didn't need to come in anymore. Naturally, it was my (not so happy) dad who answered.
By the time she got in, they didn't have anything for her, so sent her back home.
At the time, there wasn't quite such a crunch in nursing, so the pay part wasn't accurate yet, but everything else you listed (substitute COVID for %50+ of patients) was already true 30 years ago.
Re: Report: 90% of nurses considering leaving the profession in the next year
#96Nurses complain about their work conditions, but I don't understand them. They had this massive leverage during the pandemic to discuss improvements. Some people may say "Oh but it is illegal for nurses to strike in country X", but what will governments and companies realistically do if all nurses decide to stop, arrest everyone and let the health system collapse? Not a reasonable option. There's just something masoc…
Not a chance, not a speculation, but absolute awareness of the number of patients that will not receive care and likewise will die as a result.
I don’t think it’s fair to blame nurses for poor treatment when they have a multitude of terrible options to pursue in order to improve their working conditions.
Re: Report: 90% of nurses considering leaving the profession in the next year
#97While it's anecdote, every single peer in bedside medical care I know without exception has either left the field, or has immediate plans to as soon as student loan debt is repaid. The few older medical professionals in my family are simply sticking out the last few years until they can retire early. This was generally the case prior to pandemic due to how poor the work environment has become, but the pandemic seems…
Insurance companies. Everything is controlled by insurance companies. You can’t do anything unless it’s exactly how insurance wants and only for what insurance will pay. It limits everything, including how every profession can be compensated simply because you can’t easily hire somebody for more than what insurance will pay for their services. You can, but the funds have to come from somewhere.
This seems like the root of the problem, and insurance seems like what "fixes" that but causes tons of downstream unwanted side-effects.
Re: Report: 90% of nurses considering leaving the profession in the next year
#98A family friend was talking to a doctor who was considering quitting. The reason why, at least for that doctor, wasn't really the stress from patients. It was all the damned paperwork and the stress that created.
Re: Report: 90% of nurses considering leaving the profession in the next year
#99While it's anecdote, every single peer in bedside medical care I know without exception has either left the field, or has immediate plans to as soon as student loan debt is repaid. The few older medical professionals in my family are simply sticking out the last few years until they can retire early. This was generally the case prior to pandemic due to how poor the work environment has become, but the pandemic seems…
> How doctors of all professions lost their professional agency to do-nothing administrators within a generation is quite puzzling The profit model of the U.S. healthcare industry might have something to do with it. The fact that hospitals are run like businesses and have shareholders is insane to me. I know other countries' healthcare systems got hit hard by the pandemic too, but it seems like the uniquely capitalis…