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Detailed Assemblies for an Airtight Small Home

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Re: Detailed Assemblies for an Airtight Small Home

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Sensors help, but this is just a fan, and it needs to be on all the time in my experience.

This sounds like teflon, approved because it is organically safe until it reaches a certain temp, even for a second, then it releases toxic gas, and becomss permanatly harmful to cook on. The approval logic was, people will: - always be very careful cooking, and never ever let the heat get too high - people will learn about teflon, and keep watch - people care Meanwhile, stories abound of people's birds dying from to…

>and becomss permanatly harmful to cook on.

Source?

Re: Detailed Assemblies for an Airtight Small Home

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It's interesting to me that hacker news likes building-related content so much, which happens to be my education other than... well, computers. Air tightness is a critical step forward. I'm glad we are talking about it. Thinking more holistically, I would not go with the double-stud wall. You get lots of thermal bridging, and when it gets cold, your outer studs freeze. I know it's considered a straightforward system,…

> You get lots of thermal bridging

The way they did it with those gussets, it seems so. But I don't think double studded walls always imply more thermal bridging than single stud walls where typically every 16 inches there's a complete thermal bridge. I think the double studded wall has proven its effectiveness.

> your outer studs freeze

Well if they don't freeze, you're heating them. So I would think the outer studs should freeze.

> venturing out of one's comfort zone to do an exterior insulated system has enormous durability and performance benefits

Any similarly detailed writeups of this?

Re: Detailed Assemblies for an Airtight Small Home

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You can see photos of the finished house here: https://www.finehomebuilding.com/2022/04/19/high-performance...

Airtight it may be, but its no thing of beauty - at least not to me.

I mean, its ok - but to me it is just channelling the form of a 2 bed flat into a house. I'm feeling claustrophobic just looking at it.. It looks like there are pleasant nature views all around, but all the effort seems to have been towards shielding the occupants from them!

Re: Detailed Assemblies for an Airtight Small Home

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While always neat to read about, I have no idea how you'd ever build one of these homes where I live. If you look at new construction, the poor quality work usually means the the home doesn't even meet the existing weatherization standards. Not to mention you'd have to convince an inspector that everything done is to code. While I'm always impressed with such structures, they seem mostly out of reach for someone livi…

> the poor quality work I keep hearing that, but those who are in the trade listen to engineers who have done real analysis. What looks good often is bad, what looks bad is often good.

This is amusing to me. My roof was leaking a few years back and I went to check it out and it turns out some of the nails were never covered and they rusted through. The roof tar just didn't extend all the way to the edge (flat roof). My electrical outlets kept going out so I went to replace a few and realized they were installed with the wires connected to the wrong leads. I had some LED lights that are supposed to last a very long time go out within a year of moving in and replaced them and discovered the ground wires just weren't connected to anything. My neighbor had their furnace installed upside down. Damn near literally everything we have checked in these townhouses turns out to have been done incorrectly, shoddily, or just not finished and covered up in such a way that an inspector wouldn't notice if they didn't take it apart. From what I hear, the city inspector at the time was 84 and didn't bother going upstairs, so since we have 4-story houses, things like the roofing and furnaces seem to have just not been inspected at all.

It's not like this is some slum. They're 600k townhouses a few blocks from city hall in downtown Dallas. I kind of regret deciding to live in the middle of the city at this point. The builder had to fix our water main for free when it was discovered it had a joint running through where the driveway meets out foundations, causing it to split when the blocks sheered in cold weather. The guy that came out to fix it (the builder's son no less) told me townhouse construction was a joke. It's impossible to find a legit tradesman who will do it. Apparently they all prefer the suburbs. I guess putting up pre-fab houses is faster and more profitable or whatever. So we get the lowest common denominator fraudsters living downtown. I'm kind of amazed some of these guys are still alive. I've been watching a construction project next door for a while. They broke ground three years ago and finally put walls up last month. Instead of a real cherry picker, dude's were using some kind of four-story forklift and had a wood crate on top of it with one wall ripped off and they were using that for work. No safety harnesses. A guy the other day was doing window work on a 60 foot ladder, very top, with one person holding it, and he was reaching a good 4 feet to his left to mess with I think a dryer vent. Again, no safety harness.

I'm reasonably sure "poor quality work" is an accurate description of what is happening here.

Re: Detailed Assemblies for an Airtight Small Home

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> the poor quality work I keep hearing that, but those who are in the trade listen to engineers who have done real analysis. What looks good often is bad, what looks bad is often good.

Are you stating that the guy nailing zip sheathing on the side of a house talks to the engineer who designed it?

My assumption: that the guy is even nailing ZIP sheathing is doing so because some engineer determined it was an improvement over previous construction techniques.

(But maybe it is just cheaper.)

Re: Detailed Assemblies for an Airtight Small Home

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> the poor quality work I keep hearing that, but those who are in the trade listen to engineers who have done real analysis. What looks good often is bad, what looks bad is often good.

This is amusing to me. My roof was leaking a few years back and I went to check it out and it turns out some of the nails were never covered and they rusted through. The roof tar just didn't extend all the way to the edge (flat roof). My electrical outlets kept going out so I went to replace a few and realized they were installed with the wires connected to the wrong leads. I had some LED lights that are supposed to…

I read there is a shortage of construction workers (along with everything else, I guess).

Re: Detailed Assemblies for an Airtight Small Home

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We did something similar recently. This looks like standard, low cost modern construction to me. If you’re in a warmish climate (like the SF bay area), you probably don’t want to insulate the concrete slab. You get lots of passive heating of the slab in winter already, and having the ground suck that heat out is a win almost year round. South facing windows can be designed with an eave, etc to lower passive heating i…

> This looks like standard, low cost modern construction to me.

Have not seen double-stud walls. Perhaps the rest is typical?

Re: Detailed Assemblies for an Airtight Small Home

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It's interesting to me that hacker news likes building-related content so much, which happens to be my education other than... well, computers. Air tightness is a critical step forward. I'm glad we are talking about it. Thinking more holistically, I would not go with the double-stud wall. You get lots of thermal bridging, and when it gets cold, your outer studs freeze. I know it's considered a straightforward system,…

Home ownership is a luxury everyone wants. I can't imagine people don't salivate at the idea of a sturdy, comfortable, private nest. The only class of people who can afford it are people with incomes on par with tech workers.

Patently untrue.

Re: Detailed Assemblies for an Airtight Small Home

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the poor quality work I keep hearing that, but those who are in the trade listen to engineers who have done real analysis. What looks good often is bad, what looks bad is often good.

This is amusing to me. My roof was leaking a few years back and I went to check it out and it turns out some of the nails were never covered and they rusted through. The roof tar just didn't extend all the way to the edge (flat roof). My electrical outlets kept going out so I went to replace a few and realized they were installed with the wires connected to the wrong leads. I had some LED lights that are supposed to…

I'm in Austin, but I see this on new builds and existing construction as well. Incredibly low quality work, usually not even meeting the code requirements of the time.

Re: Detailed Assemblies for an Airtight Small Home

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Is there a risk of condensation, damp and mould from homes with excessive insulation? Perhaps someone with some experience could comment.

If you don't analyze it properly there's always the risk of condensation in the walls, but that risk is far higher from uninsulated walls. With uninsulated cavity walls you have room temperature + room humidity on the interior, and a sharp gradient to outside temperature within the wall, where all the moisture condenses in the winter. Worst possible situation.

There's tons of published guidelines about moisture in insulated walls. The easiest thing to build without making some fatal mistake is to put the insulation on the exterior, with a ventilated screen between it and the wall cladding. The best solution also depends on your local climate. See e.g. https://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy13osti/56709.pdf

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