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I wasted $40k on a fantastic startup idea (2020)

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Re: I wasted $40k on a fantastic startup idea (2020)

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He could have kept his day job and spent a few hundred dollars or less to have someone make some fake graphs. Hell, he could have made some fake graphs over a few weekends. Then he could have done exactly the same market research.

My one question there would be was he certain he could figure out the statistics to get to what he wanted? I feel like you need to get a rough idea of that much at least before you start pitching. Obviously you don't need every bell and whistle, all the data pipelines and so on. But basic proof would still be good to make sure you can deliver something vaguely in tune with what you're promising. But dropping all that…

> was he certain he could figure out the statistics... I feel like you need to get a rough idea of that much at least before you start pitching.

I disagree. The latter is a huge investment. You're not burning any bridges by asking if something would be useful even if you don't know if you can do it yet.

Of course even this is a wrong framing. Ideally he'd actually have sold the idea, by which I mean have actually taken money for the idea, before building it.

Then, if he couldn't build it, he could give the money back.

Re: I wasted $40k on a fantastic startup idea (2020)

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The main reason this didn't work is that the founder didn't identify a customer willing to spend money . A lot of startups fail because they never identify a customer. Or even a problem. This one failed because before writing a line of code the founder did not take the next step and ensure that the prospective customer was willing to spend money on a solution. This is why so many failing startups try to pivot to two-…

That's right. A lot of founders don't make it to #3 in your list, or they only get the "make something people want" part. It's not enough. Build something people want and will pay for . Not just say they want. Not just say they'll pay for. Make something that they see and will immediately take out their cash/cc/paypal/venmo and pay for on the spot .

That's true, but it's hard. Many people won't pay for what does not exist. Selling what does not exist is risky. Before it exists, you don't always know, and it's not always easy to produce an MVP people will pay for.

Re: I wasted $40k on a fantastic startup idea (2020)

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This was an easy pivot away from being a runaway success. The founder couldn't figure out who the right customer was and ran out of cash. This is why so many companies are venture backed. It's not that people just want to give away pieces of their company because it's cool, but that extra cash prevents you from giving up while you go through the sometimes long process of finding product market fit.

Like honestly, this product could still reach that type of success. No idea if this guy still has the code base around, or is chilling in thread, but hit me up if so lol, I'll happily buy it off you. Or at least point you towards how to make this make money

Re: I wasted $40k on a fantastic startup idea (2020)

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This was a fun read, but I think it came to the wrong conclusion. The real issue imo was "I had practically only weeks of runway". You just don't have time to make it happen. As a fellow start up founder, I see most of my job being just buying time for the business. Buying time to make, to talk, and to think. It wasn't like the tool had no value to Susan, maybe with a booth at her go-to annual expo, mentioning a few…

This is why I don't like health related business models. In a similar scenario, who's stopping Susan from sueing over a "bad" outcome from the platform recommendation. When people's health is on the line, shit can get ugly really fast.

Re: I wasted $40k on a fantastic startup idea (2020)

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I swear there was a story like this 7-8 years ago on HN where a young fella had tried to barge his way into big pharma via data science. As I recall, he had his lunch eaten and his spirit beaten, just like this one. I remember thinking about how sad it is that companies could succeed, or fail, off the basis of good, or bad, marketing. There's a weird effect where data-driven decision making becomes essentially unstop…

US healthcare is honestly a big fat joke right now. If we had gotten rid of this private payer situation a long time ago, many of the parasites would have just died off. It truly is a system of how much we can steal from the taxpayer/patient rather than actually providing healthcare.

Re: I wasted $40k on a fantastic startup idea (2020)

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I wonder if he could have made money working with the marketing depts of various drug companies instead of trying to sell stuff to the doctors. Especially if he added the right visuals the ad depts could use in commercials/print ads/etc.

Exactly my thought!
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