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Chrome 0day is being exploited now for CVE-2022-1096; update immediately

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Re: Chrome 0day is being exploited now for CVE-2022-1096; update immediately

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because qtwebengine isn't updated nearly as often and this appear to be a recent bug not a long running one.

Thanks, I didn't think about that.

I'm not saying it -isn't- in there, just that it's not 100% chance it's there. I don't think the exact "failure" has been cited yet. Would be good to check qute-browser webpage or qtwebengine page rather than a random HN asshole like me :D

Re: Chrome 0day is being exploited now for CVE-2022-1096; update immediately

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> JavaScript engines with any kind of usable performance are inherently complex Depends on what you're using it for, surely? If you're just watching videos or scrolling through the news (where the JavaScript takes a back seat) then wouldn't any implementation be fast enough?

> just watching videos [...] (where the JavaScript takes a back seat) If you're talking about media websites like YouTube, Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, Twitch and so on or even just videos on sites like Facebook, video streaming actually needs a lot of JavaScript behind the hood. Some of it even being already performance-sensitive today.

Why would that JavaScript be performance-sensitive?

Re: Chrome 0day is being exploited now for CVE-2022-1096; update immediately

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Type confusion in V8... May well impact Cloudflare workers too.

Yeah wondering if this also a 0 day for node.js and electron apps...

This is a 0 day for anything that uses V8 to execute possibly-malicious JavaScript.

Node.js and Electron aren't designed to do that in the first place, so this doesn't really affect them.

Re: Chrome 0day is being exploited now for CVE-2022-1096; update immediately

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> just watching videos [...] (where the JavaScript takes a back seat) If you're talking about media websites like YouTube, Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, Twitch and so on or even just videos on sites like Facebook, video streaming actually needs a lot of JavaScript behind the hood. Some of it even being already performance-sensitive today.

Why would that JavaScript be performance-sensitive?

Video streaming/processing is done by JavaScript or even wasm binaries in popular sites nowadays - only decoding is on the browser itself. YouTube for example also does elaborate obfuscation of parameters to their video CDNs, which gives you a nonce that you can use to access them with usable speeds.

Re: Chrome 0day is being exploited now for CVE-2022-1096; update immediately

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You don't seem to understand what I wrote so I'll explain it: - imagine a slow-but-secure browser, 10 to 100 times as slow and using 10 times as much memory as stated by the parent poster - imagine your bank and payment processor using a minimal amount of Javascript on their sites to make it possible to use that secure-but-slow browser without incurring too big a performance penalty Do you now see what I mean? It is…

The dangerous assumption here is that whatever sandbox you put the bad browser in actually contains it.

Particularly given the Project Zero KVM vulnerability published a couple of days ago. It was suitable to achieve a full VM escape. https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2021/06/an-epyc-escap...

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If your Electron app executes third party, remote code. But if it does, you should definitely not use it.

>If your Electron app executes third party, remote code. There's a high chance that it does because of embedded content/ads/iframes/in-app browsers.

Which electron apps have embedded ads running third party JavaScript? That’s a huge security risk.

Re: Chrome 0day is being exploited now for CVE-2022-1096; update immediately

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Heh, my corp locks down the edge updates and bundles them with the OS updates. Edge is going to be vulnerable to this one for months maybe a year longer that chrome.

Where I work they lock down Chrome updates as well.

Re: Chrome 0day is being exploited now for CVE-2022-1096; update immediately

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If your Electron app executes third party, remote code. But if it does, you should definitely not use it.

>If your Electron app executes third party, remote code. There's a high chance that it does because of embedded content/ads/iframes/in-app browsers.

Are in-app browsers in Electron even secure in the first place? Does it use Chrome-style sandboxing with multiple processes, etc.? Do bugs in the Electron engine get patched in a timely fashion?

Genuinely asking here. I've never written an Electron app personally so I don't know how this stuff is done exactly, but the idea of in-app browsers in Electron apps sounds terrifying to me, security-wise.

Re: Chrome 0day is being exploited now for CVE-2022-1096; update immediately

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There is no indication yet that this is due to complex web standards. It could be, but we literally dont know what the bug is yet.

But we do know that it is Javascript-related, so please correct me if I'm wrong but disabling JS for all websites except the ones you really, really trust and need should offer long-term general protection against such 0-days in most cases.

It certainly reduces attack surface. JIT based js engines do seem like a big attack surface, although certainly not the only one.

I'm not sure i would call js part of "complex new web standards". In its original form it was introduced way back in 1995.

Re: Chrome 0day is being exploited now for CVE-2022-1096; update immediately

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>If your Electron app executes third party, remote code. There's a high chance that it does because of embedded content/ads/iframes/in-app browsers.

Are in-app browsers in Electron even secure in the first place? Does it use Chrome-style sandboxing with multiple processes, etc.? Do bugs in the Electron engine get patched in a timely fashion? Genuinely asking here. I've never written an Electron app personally so I don't know how this stuff is done exactly, but the idea of in-app browsers in Electron apps sounds terrifying to me, security-wise.

Electron has been moving toward security by default in renderer processes, but Chromium sandboxing isn't yet enabled by default in these processes. More here: https://www.electronjs.org/docs/latest/tutorial/sandbox
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