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I became the world's most prolific DJ, using code

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Re: I became the world's most prolific DJ, using code

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Post by cwkoss »

pfarrell wrote: post #86
cwkoss wrote: post #74

We should pass a law to cap the maximum earnings from a single work of art to destroy the incentive for lawyers to strangle culture with predatory lawsuits. Ex. Once a work of song makes $10M it should just go into the public domain. Want to make more? Keep writing more songs.

It's an interesting thought. I'll counter with this point: Just because a song makes $10M, doesn't mean the authors see any of it. I am reminded to the story of "Mbube" aka "Wimoweh" aka "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" where Solomon Linda, the musician who created the famous melody died penniless while it is estimated he and his estate should have earned over $15M in royalties. https://www.rollingstone.com/feature/in-the-j…

How does that counter my point? If anything, I'd say that supports the cap, as the cap is unlikely to hurt artists - it would mostly hurt industry predators. And less money in predators pockets reduces the funds they have available for legal strong-arming.

Re: I became the world's most prolific DJ, using code

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Post by ahaferburg »

alar44 wrote: post #85
throwaway675309 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does the same apply to other mediums? What if I generate all possible 64x64 images? (Extend that to every resolution in theory)

You can't. Even the total number of chess positions can't be stored on disk, and that's only 8x8x32.

8x8x32=2048. Maybe you're talking about something else?

Re: I became the world's most prolific DJ, using code

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Post by horsawlarway »

tecleandor wrote: post #66
horsawlarway wrote: post #32

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Outside of the joke - I'd say your own definition of prolific undermines you pretty hard there. While I respect the author for the goal here, I would say he was neither abundantly inventive nor productive. His inventiveness boiled down to taking an existing concept, and saving some disk space using an already known algorithm. To boot - his method of saving that space rendered the original intent (preventing copywrite…

I mean... That's very productive! "Productivity is the efficiency of production of goods or services expressed by some measure." An whole album with millions of melodies in just one morning is quite efficient :). Meaningful or deep, maybe not. But productive... yes!

Purely playing devil's advocate here - Keep reading that definition you pulled up!

"There are many different definitions of productivity (including those that are not defined as ratios of output to input) and the choice among them depends on the purpose of the productivity measurement and/or data availability."

So really what we're arguing about is the "purpose of the productivity measurement". I don't think "number of melodies that will never be listened to" is a particularly good measure for "DJ", but it is a great measure for a blog title.

Re: I became the world's most prolific DJ, using code

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Post by pfarrell »

cwkoss wrote: post #91
pfarrell wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's an interesting thought. I'll counter with this point: Just because a song makes $10M, doesn't mean the authors see any of it. I am reminded to the story of "Mbube" aka "Wimoweh" aka "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" where Solomon Linda, the musician who created the famous melody died penniless while it is estimated he and his estate should have earned over $15M in royalties. https://www.rollingstone.com/feature/in-the-j…

How does that counter my point? If anything, I'd say that supports the cap, as the cap is unlikely to hurt artists - it would mostly hurt industry predators. And less money in predators pockets reduces the funds they have available for legal strong-arming.

You're right. It doesn't counter your point. I was thinking it colors it. A limit might discourage predators from taking advantage of artists, or it could intensify the situation into more of a zero-sum game that encourages more predation. It's certainly an interesting thought. I'd say, even without the limit, the default position is for creators to get taken. As an aside, I've had an essay brewing in my mind for years about the corollaries between the software VC environment, startups, bands, labels, and such. I think it's time I attempted to write it.

Re: I became the world's most prolific DJ, using code

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Post by tecleandor »

horsawlarway wrote: post #94
tecleandor wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean... That's very productive! "Productivity is the efficiency of production of goods or services expressed by some measure." An whole album with millions of melodies in just one morning is quite efficient :). Meaningful or deep, maybe not. But productive... yes!

Purely playing devil's advocate here - Keep reading that definition you pulled up! "There are many different definitions of productivity (including those that are not defined as ratios of output to input) and the choice among them depends on the purpose of the productivity measurement and/or data availability." So really what we're arguing about is the "purpose of the productivity measurement". I don't think "number…

Yeah I know, it's pure volume and just a funny stat. Quality, that'd be another thing...

Re: I became the world's most prolific DJ, using code

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Post by InCityDreams »

lookalike74 wrote: post #82
davedx wrote: post #77

Kinda interesting project but very clickbait title. What does this have to do with DJing?

Great question, DJ's mix songs and this person mixed 'every possible 12 note melody combination' they could generate with code.

Ah, dude's not a dj then (as far as this is concerned)

Re: I became the world's most prolific DJ, using code

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Post by cupofpython »

munk-a wrote: post #51
wincy wrote: post #45

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I mean, the game No Man’s Sky procedurally generates 18 quintillion planets but they hold a copyright on all of those planets, don’t they? They certainly haven’t explored all of the planets.

IANAL but I'm pretty sure generating something, even something creative, isn't enough for protection if it isn't novel and distinct. I'd assume none of their planets would be protected since there are 18 quintillion of them and most of them have never actually been rendered - but the process to generate planets of that style might be protectable.

this makes sense to me. If i custom design a planet for a game and unknowingly recreate a fringe planet from no man sky.. it really doesnt feel like copyright.

or if i create a completely different procedural generation method for planets and 99% of my planets differ from no mans sky but there is an identical overlap of some of my fringe planets and theirs, it again does not feel like copyright.

but if i take their method and tweak it a little bit so i also make a game with 18 quintillion planets of a somewhat different variety but am only able to do so because i am copying their methods without their consent.. that feels much more like copyright. even if none of my planets are an identical match to a single one of theirs

Re: I became the world's most prolific DJ, using code

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Post by Kye »

ahaferburg wrote: post #93
alar44 wrote: post #85

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You can't. Even the total number of chess positions can't be stored on disk, and that's only 8x8x32.

8x8x32=2048. Maybe you're talking about something else?

Probably a misunderstanding of the word position in this context.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannon_number

Re: I became the world's most prolific DJ, using code

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Post by alar44 »

ahaferburg wrote: post #93
alar44 wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't. Even the total number of chess positions can't be stored on disk, and that's only 8x8x32.

8x8x32=2048. Maybe you're talking about something else?

I mean dimensionally. 8x8 board with 32 pieces. So 8x8^32 or something like that.
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