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Re: I have quit my job

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Post by jjoonathan »

A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote: post #85
hoseja wrote: post #78

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And that is why US is spending so much effort making sure the basic needs stay unmet.

I had to think about it. Is it a conscious design effort or just a function otherwise unrelated issues?

It's the net effect of asset holders working in their collective self interest and a society that allows them to.

They are on the other side of the bargaining table from the needy and much, much stronger. The moment the lower classes obtain a bit of spare cash and start to think about climbing Maslow's Hierarchy, rent goes up and the spare cash vanishes. Or wages inflate away and shareholders benefit. In any case, someone with an asset is standing by to hoover up the cash.

It's not exactly malice -- it's self interest with lopsided power dynamics and neglect for side effects -- but the dedication with which people weave excuses around this process can really feel like it's malicious some times.

Re: I have quit my job

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Post by criddell »

DocTomoe wrote: post #80
8n4vidtmkvmk wrote: post #44

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would love to take a nice long break and turn my head off for a bit. kinda hard when your employer stops paying you and the landlord still wants his rent

Seems like the problem is in your attachment to your flat. Fixer-upper houses in the countryside are basically cheaper than a year's one-bedroom rent in the Bay Area. It's all a question of trade-offs. Would you rather a) have a soul-crushing job and a nice flat or b) live happily, but in the Mid-West?

Those aren't the only two choices.

Re: I have quit my job

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Post by nnnnico »

DocTomoe wrote: post #80
8n4vidtmkvmk wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

would love to take a nice long break and turn my head off for a bit. kinda hard when your employer stops paying you and the landlord still wants his rent

Seems like the problem is in your attachment to your flat. Fixer-upper houses in the countryside are basically cheaper than a year's one-bedroom rent in the Bay Area. It's all a question of trade-offs. Would you rather a) have a soul-crushing job and a nice flat or b) live happily, but in the Mid-West?

That is possible if you have 0 responsabilities, or just dont care

Re: I have quit my job

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Post by TOMDM »

hoseja wrote: post #78
chii wrote: post #25

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> I think there is nothing irrational about this. it's not irrational. Unless you ignore the lower needs on the Maslow's hierarchy of needs and spend your efforts on the higher needs. The lower needs are basic - sustenance and safety etc. If someone is wealthy enough to meet these needs with time and resources to spare, then it makes a lot of sense to spend the extra resources on the higher needs. But it is irrationa…

And that is why US is spending so much effort making sure the basic needs stay unmet.

What money is the US spending in order to worsen it's own citizens basic needs?

Not needs it stubbornly refuses to subsidize, but actively making sure they remain unmet?

Re: I have quit my job

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Post by paskozdilar »

nebulous_two wrote: post #89
paskozdilar wrote: post #81

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> you actually can take a break from work, you are just unwilling to deal with a (potentially rapid) change in lifestyle. A "change in lifestyle" can also mean becoming homeless and dying of starvation. In that case, true, I am quite unwilling to deal with such a change.

This is some fatalistic nonsense. There is a long way to go for an IT person to die of starvation. It would have to be intentional: wanting to die of starvation.

I don't understand a single thing you're talking about. The path is very simple:

    don't work -> run out of money -> unable to afford food and rent -> work again / die of starvation
Can you specify which part of the path is intentional? Why would anyone want to die of starvation?

Re: I have quit my job

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Post by jimkri »

jmauritz wrote: post #31
hans1729 wrote: post #16

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I disagree heavily with this. Lots of people make a living doing what they love/building a better world. Just because we normalized selling our attention to the highest fiscal bidder, doesn’t mean that the highest fiscal bid is actually valuable in terms of life quality. Nobody looks back and says “eh, I wish I’d have worked more at [soulless job]”. I think your perspective is extreme dystopian, and it makes me sad t…

I might come off as really cynical, but i agree with your statement completely. The best place i worked didn't feel like work, smart motivated people with little managerial oversight and a shared vision, awesome times. What I'm trying to say is: look out for yourself out there because no one else will, don't let yourself be exploited

I really appreciate this response and relate to this.

I think I was in a really similar mindset as OP, the last company I was at I was very naive and believed this pitch about the company. Come to find out the company had nothing. What I did gain is a great learning lesson on how I should approach work and more.

My current company I looked for specific things and listened during the interview. I know interviews can only give you so much, but when I decided on the last job I ignored so many red flags in hope that this will turn into something huge, I should have looked at it as a true red flag that this will be a rough experience.

Also having ADHD this is something that is tough at times

Re: I have quit my job

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Post by smordistan »

TOMDM wrote: post #94
hoseja wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And that is why US is spending so much effort making sure the basic needs stay unmet.

What money is the US spending in order to worsen it's own citizens basic needs? Not needs it stubbornly refuses to subsidize, but actively making sure they remain unmet?

Universal health care for one.

Were you actually asking in good faith? This gets brought up fairly often.

Re: I have quit my job

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Post by d33 »

TOMDM wrote: post #94
hoseja wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And that is why US is spending so much effort making sure the basic needs stay unmet.

What money is the US spending in order to worsen it's own citizens basic needs? Not needs it stubbornly refuses to subsidize, but actively making sure they remain unmet?

I'd go with a TSA as an example of such spending. It's a net negative to the society - lots of money being spent to give an impression of security while it's proven that they clearly fail at their mission:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transportation_Security_Admini...

Re: I have quit my job

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Post by s1artibartfast »

paskozdilar wrote: post #95
nebulous_two wrote: post #89

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This is some fatalistic nonsense. There is a long way to go for an IT person to die of starvation. It would have to be intentional: wanting to die of starvation.

I don't understand a single thing you're talking about. The path is very simple: don't work -> run out of money -> unable to afford food and rent -> work again / die of starvation Can you specify which part of the path is intentional? Why would anyone want to die of starvation?

If you are located in the US, anyone can get free food to avoid starvation. Food stamps and food banks are two of the most common options.

>work again / die of starvation

If you get to this step, the choice is yours. What do you estimate the chance of not being able to find work at? 1%,… 0.00001%?

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