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Re: Zotero 6

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Post by jrochkind1 »

jarvist wrote: post #87
jrochkind1 wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mostly just PDFs? Or are there good ways to save non-PDF content?

The web plugin actually falls back to 'web page with snapshot' if it can't detect a journal paper, which in many ways is better than trying to drag around big PDF binaries.

Thanks! I've used zotero only minimally, mostly to support users of my software who use zotero, rather than using it myself for my own purposes.

Is the "web plugin" something built into zotero, or an extra plugin to install? Calling it "plugin" makes it sound like something extra to install, but not finding it easily googling. Help me out?

Re: Zotero 6

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Post by bachmeier »

folli wrote: post #58
bachmeier wrote: post #49

This looks really nice. Zotero has never stuck with me for some reason but I last used it a few years ago. I'll try again. One problem with this type of service is that there's usually a huge jump from unpaid to paid, but the jump to the lowest paid tier of Zotero lets you pay $20/year for 2 GB of storage. I can handle that. I have more difficulty with the $15/month and $90/year and such paid tiers. Even at $20/year,…

>...comes to $100 ... for what is largely a donation to support development. That's not that bad for a useful product, is it?

No, but I'm saying it's enough. The $90/year service comes to $450 over five years, and that's definitely too much.

Re: Zotero 6

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Post by jrochkind1 »

As someone who writes web apps used by academics... I find it really hard to find documentationon on how to make my web site/app work well with zotero! They seem so used to more-or-less adversarial web development, that when we're like "We want to make this work as well as possible with zotero, like I'm going to spend development time doing that, can you give me some clear docs on my options?" -- I have trouble finding it. Like how can I make sure zotero can properly find an attached PDF, or citation info (including for list pages with multiple things cited) or whatever. Without requiring a custom zotero connector for my (tiny) site, how do I make my site just work? Many of my users definitely use zotero.

Re: Zotero 6

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Post by bachmeier »

ska wrote: post #69
bachmeier wrote: post #49

This looks really nice. Zotero has never stuck with me for some reason but I last used it a few years ago. I'll try again. One problem with this type of service is that there's usually a huge jump from unpaid to paid, but the jump to the lowest paid tier of Zotero lets you pay $20/year for 2 GB of storage. I can handle that. I have more difficulty with the $15/month and $90/year and such paid tiers. Even at $20/year,…

One probably non-obvious thing is that the $100/yr ish unlimited storage tier includes everything you do as a user including shared libraries . So if you have a group of people working together in a group library, one shared library subscription covers all of them. It doesn't take many people to make this worthwhile. And as you say, it's a good way to support a great project. I do it even when I'm not really using th…

> I do it even when I'm not really using the software.

I'll drop a one-time donation of $10 or $18 or something largely independent of my use - or even if I don't use it at all. I don't treat it as a purchase, though I can understand that others do.

Re: Zotero 6

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Post by bachmeier »

greenicon wrote: post #82
bachmeier wrote: post #49

This looks really nice. Zotero has never stuck with me for some reason but I last used it a few years ago. I'll try again. One problem with this type of service is that there's usually a huge jump from unpaid to paid, but the jump to the lowest paid tier of Zotero lets you pay $20/year for 2 GB of storage. I can handle that. I have more difficulty with the $15/month and $90/year and such paid tiers. Even at $20/year,…

You can use just the metadata sync by them and sync the actual files with e.g. webdav or syncthing or whatever. That way it's free.

If I use it, I'll pay them. I can use the savings from all the VC-subsidized software I don't have to pay for.

Re: Zotero 6

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Post by dstillman »

murphyslab wrote: post #90

The annotation features will definitely help Zotero to keep relevant, but Zotero still desperately needs a better option for saving websites. The ability to save sites, via browser extension, as a single file (MHTML or even HTML-only) has been an open request since 2007. - https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/919/ (2007) - https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/33516/ (2013) - https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/68378…

Zotero has saved webpage snapshots as single HTML files since November 2020. We're using SingleFile under the hood.

(Disclosure: Zotero dev)

Re: Zotero 6

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Post by Tenoke »

I recently found my mendeley app doesn't work anymore (they've discontinued it) so I decided to try Zotero. To my surprise they have 3 Android apps.. none of which work and a bookmarklet which also doesn't work. Has anyone found a way to easily save papers on Android?

Re: Zotero 6

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Post by dstillman »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #93

As someone who writes web apps used by academics... I find it really hard to find documentationon on how to make my web site/app work well with zotero! They seem so used to more-or-less adversarial web development, that when we're like "We want to make this work as well as possible with zotero, like I'm going to spend development time doing that, can you give me some clear docs on my options?" -- I have trouble findi…

https://www.zotero.org/support/dev/exposing_metadata

(Disclosure: Zotero dev)

Re: Zotero 6

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Post by jessriedel »

SubiculumCode wrote: post #55
jjoonathan wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. What really blows my mind is how many of my academically inclined friends manage (and cloud sync) a big library of pirated papers using a rival piece of software owned by a major rights holder of said pirated papers. I mean... there's a good chance nothing will come of it, but it just seems like tempting fate. Zotero isn't just good enough, it's so good that the choice is completely trivial IMO! Thanks, Zoter…

I've converted all my colleagues to Zotero, even though the University has contracted subscriptions to EndNote et al. Zotero is just better. I wish that the UC System would contract with Zotero for their mutual benefit.

There's no sales team at Zotero to interface with the UC behemoth...

Re: Zotero 6

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Post by layer8 »

I see there’s an iOS app in beta. Will that require using Zotero Storage, or will there be integration with Files, or directly with other storage providers (Dropbox etc.)?
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