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Re: Bitbucket now rocks Git

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On text editors -- picking up Emacs was one of the hardest thing I ever did, as I had to learn new shortcuts, I had to learn to rely on the keyboard-only and I also had to learn some ELisp just to be able to configure it. Because Emacs has some problems (it is hard to create new syntax-highlighting definitions, plugins break all the time, ELPA for package management is useless), I did try both Textmate and Sublime Te…

I am comfortable in Emacs and quite good with vim. Both do get in my way, which is why I moved to Sublime Text for text editing. I don't live in my text editor. I spend most of my time in IntelliJ or Visual Studio. The conventions of normal text editors are largely established, and so something that runs counter to those normal conventions--an emacs or a vim-- do get in my way. It is a mental gearshift to go "oh, I n…

     I spend most of my time in IntelliJ or Visual Studio.
It's understandable then why you don't like Vim/Emacs. Yes, working with IntelliJ/Eclipse/Visual Studio is painful for me too.

True anecdote - whenever I'm working with Eclipse, I have a shortcut that opens the current file in Emacs for me.

     Vim and emacs are nonstandard at their own peril
I spend my time with Unix-related tools mostly, and Emacs/Vim shortcuts are not as nonstandard as you think. The Bash shell for instance uses Emacs shortcuts. In fact, all shells (like irb or ipython) powered by Readline also use Emacs shortcuts.

     That you don't "get" how I can stand it is OK; 
     the important thing is that I can.
Don't take it as a criticism on yourself; I said that mostly because I'm pretty annoyed with Textmate - it does some things really well but other (IMHO important) features are totally retarded.

Re: Bitbucket now rocks Git

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post #81

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I am comfortable in Emacs and quite good with vim. Both do get in my way, which is why I moved to Sublime Text for text editing. I don't live in my text editor. I spend most of my time in IntelliJ or Visual Studio. The conventions of normal text editors are largely established, and so something that runs counter to those normal conventions--an emacs or a vim-- do get in my way. It is a mental gearshift to go "oh, I n…

I spend most of my time in IntelliJ or Visual Studio. It's understandable then why you don't like Vim/Emacs. Yes, working with IntelliJ/Eclipse/Visual Studio is painful for me too. True anecdote - whenever I'm working with Eclipse, I have a shortcut that opens the current file in Emacs for me. Vim and emacs are nonstandard at their own peril I spend my time with Unix-related tools mostly, and Emacs/Vim shortcuts are…

Truth be told, if I was using Eclipse, I'd probably do the same thing. Other than that... ;)

Re: Bitbucket now rocks Git

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Great to see bitbucket expanding the offering.

A while back I had chosen bitbucket over GitHub because of the free private repository. And Git was not an absolute requirement, non-Git source control was absolutely fine.

GitHub still does not offer a private repo for free (currently private is $7/month), I imagine this may change at some point soon now.

Re: Bitbucket now rocks Git

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You sound like an apple customer, you get more for same price and consider this a bad thing... Pigs indeed fly. It doesn't cost them a lot more in infrastructure to provide alternate dvcs - so your point seems to be completly invalid. More and more I'm starting to think that git is some kind of religion. We benefit from competition between those 2 platforms and in the end this is what should count the most for us - c…

It's amazing that your comment got thumbed down, not up. All points seem perfecly valid, so it really must be the "Apple customer" reference that killed it. Sad.

What's sad is the absurd claim that Apple customers believe that getting more for the same price is a bad thing. As for the next point, whether providing alternative DVCS access leads to greater fixed infrastructure costs or not, that seems like a completely orthogonal point to the "race to the bottom" topic that the OP raised. If all players involved reduce their prices (and therefore top-line revenue) to near zero, it doesn't matter how low the infrastructure costs are -- everyone is still broke in that scenario. So no, not all points here seem valid. Far from it: by my count, it looks like 0 for 2 so far.

One point, however, rings true: competition is good for we end-users, and it's certainly exciting that Bitbucket now offers both hg and git access.

Re: Bitbucket now rocks Git

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Definitely going to give this a go. I have a lot of repos I'd like to keep private, but they're mostly personal projects and not worth paying more money for at GitHub. Quick question from someone new to Bitbucket: I have to authenticate every time I push to the repo. I've added my SSH key to the account, but I assume there's some additional configuration, such as how github has you add values for github.user and gith…

The github.user and github.token settings aren't used by git, by the way - they're used by any tools you might use that can use the github API. They aren't required for pushing or pulling over ssh.

Re: Bitbucket now rocks Git

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Definitely going to give this a go. I have a lot of repos I'd like to keep private, but they're mostly personal projects and not worth paying more money for at GitHub. Quick question from someone new to Bitbucket: I have to authenticate every time I push to the repo. I've added my SSH key to the account, but I assume there's some additional configuration, such as how github has you add values for github.user and gith…

Make sure to use git@bitbucket.org:{username}/{reponame} instead of any https links bitbucket might give you. I was able to upload an existing repo I had by: 1) Uploading my SSH Public Key at https://bitbucket.org/account/ (i.e. the contents of ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub) 2) Create a blank repo at Bitbucket 3) Adding a remote (git remote add bitbucket git@bitbucket.org:{username}/{reponame}.git) 4) Pushing to bitbucket (git p…

Ah, thanks so much! That makes perfect sense. I was using the https link that bigbucket provided initially.

Re: Bitbucket now rocks Git

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It's amazing that your comment got thumbed down, not up. All points seem perfecly valid, so it really must be the "Apple customer" reference that killed it. Sad.

What's sad is the absurd claim that Apple customers believe that getting more for the same price is a bad thing. As for the next point, whether providing alternative DVCS access leads to greater fixed infrastructure costs or not, that seems like a completely orthogonal point to the "race to the bottom" topic that the OP raised. If all players involved reduce their prices (and therefore top-line revenue) to near zero,…

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Re: Bitbucket now rocks Git

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I use GitHub mainly for private repos. I think I will actually move my private repos over to Bitbucket. I really like GitHub Issues though. Does Bitbucket have anything similar? I don't see it on their site.

Bitbucket issues had a recent update (only noticed it today myself) and it's much improved. It's a little basic but it fits my needs pretty well. You can see one at https://bitbucket.org/jespern/django-piston/issues?status=ne...

Oh wow, that is an improvement. Their issue UI used to be pretty bad. I'm glad they've improved it so much. Might be time to re-evaluate using it.

Re: Bitbucket now rocks Git

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It's amazing that your comment got thumbed down, not up. All points seem perfecly valid, so it really must be the "Apple customer" reference that killed it. Sad.

What's sad is the absurd claim that Apple customers believe that getting more for the same price is a bad thing. As for the next point, whether providing alternative DVCS access leads to greater fixed infrastructure costs or not, that seems like a completely orthogonal point to the "race to the bottom" topic that the OP raised. If all players involved reduce their prices (and therefore top-line revenue) to near zero,…

Why would you claim that someone reduced their prices and revenue to zero? How does providing additional functionality relate to price reduction? I'm really surprised by this comment - do you have any data to base this assumption?

To me it's opening to customers with different demands.

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