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Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by moooo99 »

quirino wrote: post #12
cube2222 wrote: post #2

Looks like all the people saying "just start fusing those M1 CPU's into bigger ones" were right, that's basically what they did for the top of the line new M1 CPU (fused two M1 Max'es together). And since the presenter mentioned the Mac Pro would come on another day, I wonder if they'll just do 4x M1 Max for that.

If they do create another chip for the Mac Pro, I wonder what they'll call it. We have the M1, M1 Pro, M1 Max and M1 Ultra so far.

When handing over to the M1 Ultra part of the keynote he literally said something along the lines of "we're adding this last M1 chip to our lineup". So maybe an upcoming Mac Pro will have the next generation of Apple Silicon (M2).

I am curious to see how that device will look like. Surprisingly, with the last Mac Pro the modularity of the device and the ability to user-upgrade GPU, RAM or storage was actually a huge selling point that Apple emphasized. I can't imagine how this would work with Apple Silicon.

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by satsuma »

hammock wrote: post #37
nerdjon wrote: post #15

More and more I see the M1 chips and I wish Mac worked seriously well for gaming. Would love too see something like Proton but for Mac (given up hopes for native support). I hate that I have my gaming PC and then my Mac for everything else. I have to wonder though what their plan is for the M2. Are they laying the groundwork for when the M2 comes out all of these variants will be ready at the same time? Or a gradual…

Mac is going back to their most successful niche - creators.

and it makes total sense! computers are slowly transitioning back to professional/enthusiast/educational focused as casual internet browsing continues to move onto mobile devices. you don't have people buying laptops to browse the internet on their couch anymore.

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by cyber_kinetist »

rovr138 wrote: post #13
kccoder wrote: post #8

Apple said that Max's CPU is up to 2.5x faster and the Ultra's CPU is up to 3.8x faster than whatever intel CPU is in the iMac Pro, so you're getting about 52% more CPU performance with Ultra's doubling in CPU cores vs the Max, so definitely feeling some linear scaling limitations with the interconnect.

There has to be overhead to not have to deal with the multi-cpu architecture in software. It's impressive

Though maybe we can get some NUMA-like affinity control for the M1 Ultra, so HPC control freaks can finally tune the fuck out of this hardware.

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by pg_bot »

quirino wrote: post #12
cube2222 wrote: post #2

Looks like all the people saying "just start fusing those M1 CPU's into bigger ones" were right, that's basically what they did for the top of the line new M1 CPU (fused two M1 Max'es together). And since the presenter mentioned the Mac Pro would come on another day, I wonder if they'll just do 4x M1 Max for that.

If they do create another chip for the Mac Pro, I wonder what they'll call it. We have the M1, M1 Pro, M1 Max and M1 Ultra so far.

Mega, Supra, Domina, Prima, Stellar, Noto, Nova, Jumbo.

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by can16358p »

quirino wrote: post #12
cube2222 wrote: post #2

Looks like all the people saying "just start fusing those M1 CPU's into bigger ones" were right, that's basically what they did for the top of the line new M1 CPU (fused two M1 Max'es together). And since the presenter mentioned the Mac Pro would come on another day, I wonder if they'll just do 4x M1 Max for that.

If they do create another chip for the Mac Pro, I wonder what they'll call it. We have the M1, M1 Pro, M1 Max and M1 Ultra so far.

M1 Epic (late 2022)

M1 Ludicrous (early 2023)

M1 Insane (late 2023)

Probably they'll make enough changes to release M2 by that time.

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by BirAdam »

Thaxll wrote: post #50
mshockwave wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same, I want to run AAA games using these crazy Mac hardwares. A more interesting question will be: how hard it will be to implement such Proton for Mac? Is there any previous project?

Well crazy mac hardware is actually not very good compared to PC graphic cards.

Actually, they're excellent as one can actually easily purchase an M1 mac at the moment.

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by the_lucifer »

paxys wrote: post #47

Third/fourth/fifth time's the charm I guess? I really hope apple gets the "Mac Pro" form factor right this time.

> I really hope apple gets the "Mac Pro" form factor right this time.

Tbh, they did mention at the end that their Apple Silicon Mac Pro is coming later down the line, which I'm guessing will focus more on upgradability and modularity

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by rovr138 »

unfocussed_mike wrote: post #73
the_lucifer wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What can they really do, in a single machine, that is more "Pro" than the Studio? I'm guessing the Mac Pro will focus more on Upgradability and adding expansion slots? That seems like a direction Apple is willing to go tbh.

Why does it need expansion slots? Is that still a thing? :-) Drive bays, yeah. Maybe some approach towards coprocessor boards. But none of this new direction shrieks out "install your own graphics card" anymore.

Yeah. I'm wondering about network cards for some higher throughput setups.

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by cube2222 »

nouveaux wrote: post #36
nerdjon wrote: post #15

More and more I see the M1 chips and I wish Mac worked seriously well for gaming. Would love too see something like Proton but for Mac (given up hopes for native support). I hate that I have my gaming PC and then my Mac for everything else. I have to wonder though what their plan is for the M2. Are they laying the groundwork for when the M2 comes out all of these variants will be ready at the same time? Or a gradual…

I don't feel the need to play cutting edge games anymore. Playing Windows games in Parallel on my M1 is pretty good. I was shocked to see how well it worked. It's unlikely to run Elden Ring well. However, the vast majority of games are fine.

It'd be cool to see some gaming-oriented benchmarks of the M1 Ultra with Parallels.

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by yurishimo »

unfocussed_mike wrote: post #78
cududa wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They literally said in the keynote that the new Mac Pro is in the pipeline

Right, but the keynote is marketing. And they've been saying that for, what, nearly a decade now? [0] And in that time they have chipped away at that segment from different directions, with the iMac Pro and the Mac Studio. The latter of which is a beast already. What's left? Render farms, scaleable computing. I guess I think there will be some sort of new machine in that segment. But I figure it's not going to be wha…

They released a new Mac Pro in 2019. I think there is a strong possibility for a revision late this year or next year.
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