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A neurologist who hacked his brain and almost lost his mind (2016)

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Re: A neurologist who hacked his brain and almost lost his mind (2016)

#91
The story seems interesting enough, I'm curious what happened to him, what he discovered etc, but I can't take this style of writing.i would like to have a tldr version somewhere of this as I have no intention of putting my entire morning into skimming through every single insignificant detail of the developments.

Or could anyone here just post a tldr summary perchance?

Thanks.

Re: A neurologist who hacked his brain and almost lost his mind (2016)

#92

The headline is quite a bit of clickbait. And the frame of the article is aimed at clicks and keeping the reader hooked by creating the impression he had made some monumental mistake. He had some brain swelling shortly after the surgery. Thats it. Still great to have posted it, amazing guy

Thanks, headlines like these I always go straight to the comments to find out why the headline is totally wrong. It's quite satisfying.

If you like this sort of thing check out the 'savedyouaclick' subreddit for more!

Re: A neurologist who hacked his brain and almost lost his mind (2016)

#93
Should have said almost lost his brain function.

Anyone who things an abled person wants a cell phone in their head probably already lost their mind in the colloquial sense long ago.

It seems like he's doing amazing work that will really help a lot of people though. But being a cyborg doesn't sound all that great.

Re: A neurologist who hacked his brain and almost lost his mind (2016)

#94
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note that Wikipedia has this policy focussed on being a tertiary source; Wikiversity , another Wikimedia project, welcomes original research. A lot of what people complain about Wikipedia ruling out is in scope for either Wikiversity or Wikibooks; it's not a “we don't want that” issue but a “we have structure, and within that structure there is a better place for that”.

Yeah, but realistically wikiversity doesn't have much to show for it.

It's sad that wikibooks and Wikipedia have almost nothing interesting that's complete.

Re: A neurologist who hacked his brain and almost lost his mind (2016)

#95

The headline is quite a bit of clickbait. And the frame of the article is aimed at clicks and keeping the reader hooked by creating the impression he had made some monumental mistake. He had some brain swelling shortly after the surgery. Thats it. Still great to have posted it, amazing guy

Have you tried reading the article? Because he literally gave himself severe brain damage / trauma from the operation:

    """
    At first the procedure that Kennedy hired Cervantes to
    perform—the implantation of a set of glass-and-gold-wire
    electrodes beneath the surface of his own brain—seemed to go
    quite well. There wasn’t much bleeding during the surgery. But
    his recovery was fraught with problems. Two days in, Kennedy was
    sitting on his bed when, all of a sudden, his jaw began to grind
    and chatter, and one of his hands began to shake. Powton worried
    that the seizure would break Kennedy’s teeth.

    His language problems persisted as well. “He wasn’t making
    sense anymore,” Powton says. “He kept apologizing, ‘Sorry,
    sorry,’ because he couldn’t say anything else.” Kennedy
    could still utter syllables and a few scattered words, but he
    seemed to have lost the glue that bound them into phrases and
    sentences. When Kennedy grabbed a pen and tried to write a
    message, it came out as random letters scrawled on a page.

    At first Powton had been impressed by what he called Kennedy’s
    Indiana Jones approach to science: tromping off to Belize,
    breaking the standard rules of research, gambling with his own
    mind. Yet now here he was, apparently locked in. “I thought we
    had damaged him for life,” Powton says. “I was like, what have
    we done?”
    """


    """
    Kennedy’s recovery had continued to go poorly: The more effort
    he put into talking, the more he seemed to get locked up. And no
    one from the US, it became clear, was coming to take the doctor
    off Powton and Cervantes’ hands.

    """
From that description:

    - Motor control impairment
    - Extreme language impairment to the point that subject is unable to write coherently
    - Literal fucking seizures
    - Possible prefrontal damage
While it was just "postoperative brain swelling" and the brain "can heal". It's unlikely that he made a completely full recovery, indeed later in the article it is alluded that he has permanent motor damage:

    """
    When I meet Kennedy there one day in May 2015, [...] Kennedy says
    with a slight Irish accent [...] “The retractor pulled on a
    branch of the nerve that went to my temporalis muscle. I can’t
    lift this eyebrow.” Indeed, I notice that the operation has left
    his handsome face with an asymmetric droop.

    """
And likely, prefrontal damage from his inability to refrain from commenting the first thing on his mind[0]:

    """
    Kennedy said when we first started watching the video. But now he
    deviates from our discussion about evolution to bark orders at the
    screen, like a sports fan in front of a TV. “No, don’t do
    that, don’t lift it up,” Kennedy says to the pair of hands
    operating on his brain. “It shouldn’t go in at that angle,”
    he explains to me before turning back to the computer. “Push it
    in more than that!” he says. “OK, that’s plenty, that’s
    plenty. Don’t push anymore!”
    """
The reporter later refers to his "garbled answer", indicating that he still has language formation problems, and that actually seems well-indicated from the snippets of quotes we see from him.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontal_lobe_injury

Re: A neurologist who hacked his brain and almost lost his mind (2016)

#96
Apart from the clickbait headline, there is an important division between restorative and augmentative applications of BCI. The former, when the patient has already suffered serious neurological injuries (or even paralysis) presents an attractive risk/reward ratio. The latter is dubious, even if only for the operation risks such as the swelling the article notes.

Interesting to ponder where that dividing line resides.

Re: A neurologist who hacked his brain and almost lost his mind (2016)

#97
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There are mods who would delete that in a heartbeat if they saw it.

Which is why Wikipedia is so western-centric. I could be the world expert in my field, say... coconut picking. I haven't published any papers about picking coconuts, and neither is it a subject that the newspapers want to write about. If I wrote wikipedia entry about picking coconuts, it would be immediately deleted because personal experience isn't a citable source. I need to tell some other fool about what I do, ha…

Reminds me of whoever it was that bootstrapped a "fact" into Wikipedia "truth" by ninja-editing some obscure public figure's wiki page with a fabricated piece of trivia just as they hit the headlines for whatever reason, which made it into a published (if hastily researched) article about the figure. Then when a Wikipedia editor reverted the edit, they re-added it, citing the article as a source.

Re: A neurologist who hacked his brain and almost lost his mind (2016)

#98
post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is why Wikipedia is so western-centric. I could be the world expert in my field, say... coconut picking. I haven't published any papers about picking coconuts, and neither is it a subject that the newspapers want to write about. If I wrote wikipedia entry about picking coconuts, it would be immediately deleted because personal experience isn't a citable source. I need to tell some other fool about what I do, ha…

In my personal experience, the demographics of America are about 50% employed in a startup, the median education level is PhD, and the most common religion is Judaism. Personal experience is hogwash. Everyone is convinced their personal experience is an accurate view of how things really are, and everyone is wrong. I have no idea if the "world's best coconuts pickers first hand experience" is as laughably wrong as my…

> Everyone is convinced their personal experience is an accurate view of how things really are, and everyone is wrong.

You're convinced that your personal experience of everyone's convictions and the veracity of such is accurate. By your reasoning, you must be wrong?

...or are you? A most ingenious paradox.

Re: A neurologist who hacked his brain and almost lost his mind (2016)

#99
post #95

The headline is quite a bit of clickbait. And the frame of the article is aimed at clicks and keeping the reader hooked by creating the impression he had made some monumental mistake. He had some brain swelling shortly after the surgery. Thats it. Still great to have posted it, amazing guy

Have you tried reading the article? Because he literally gave himself severe brain damage / trauma from the operation: """ At first the procedure that Kennedy hired Cervantes to perform—the implantation of a set of glass-and-gold-wire electrodes beneath the surface of his own brain—seemed to go quite well. There wasn’t much bleeding during the surgery. But his recovery was fraught with problems. Two days in, Kennedy…

>While it was just "postoperative brain swelling" and the brain "can heal".

As i said, brain swelling from the surgery. The article first gave me the impression it was because of what was implanted, ie his implant not working. Which wasnt the case, it worked and he collected his dataset with his ancient hardware till it had to be removed again.

I indeed read over the part of the sentence with the facial nerve though. His wording seemed fine though, i have met quite a few people who talk like this. People who go to Belize for brainsurgery are expected to be a bit eccentric.

Re: A neurologist who hacked his brain and almost lost his mind (2016)

#100
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It does appear that is one of the molecules that will help stimulate production [1] but to what degree I can not tell. This might make for some fun reading on PubMed. I take half of those things they list but have no way to measure it. I would avoid commenting on the people down-voting you, that typically just makes it worse. [1] - https://www.neomed-clinic.com/the-best-nerve-growth-factor-s...

Has Lion’s Mane made demonstrable improvements in your intelligence???

No idea. I really do not have a good way to measure this. I am also quite skeptical of things like IQ tests as a means for measuring such things. I've had some in depth discussions with a friend that is a psychoanalyst about these tests and have read up on them myself. My limited understanding is that they are mostly useful for putting a person into a range but getting exact numbers is not feasible, meaning that the tests giving a specific number is really just an approximation in a range and that also varies by which of the two standard tests is used.

If I could get something that could measure exact interaction response times of synapses then perhaps that might be a starting point. The equipment exists but doubt I could even afford the grey-market gear nor do I have a place to put it.

One might ask why I take these molecules if I can not measure efficacy. For me it's simple. They are relatively cheap and there are enough studied benefits that even if the gains are marginal I will find that an acceptable net gain in the big picture of my overall health.

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