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Re: www.userfriendly.org seems to be gone, RIP Erwin, Dust Puppy and Co :(

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A webcomic that started back when mid-sized US/Canadian towns really did have one-stop ISPs that employed both experienced sysadmins, the new web designers doing sites for local businesses, and students just getting started in IT - and were places where all of the above could actually advance or at least enjoy their careers, not just languish as call center drones. I was lucky enough to spend a couple of summers in h…

In the mid-90s, Toronto used to have two(!) free computer-centric newspapers. One of those papers used to reprint these comics, but can’t remember which one.

I still remember reading one of the news blurbs in one issue that Linux 2.4.8 was out of beta. This was such a bizarre way to get updates about Linux.

Re: www.userfriendly.org seems to be gone, RIP Erwin, Dust Puppy and Co :(

#92
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I wrote a spider many years back to download the comics and display them in a local interface. Somehow it survived several migrations and was on my synology. Here is an archive of the images if anybody wants them. https://mega.nz/file/GKQQVbTY#1QmzfH7r2LAilAZU2RixI4yp-9IU6Q... RIP UF, you were a big part of my childhood

That sounds like something that would interest archive.org

I'll look into that.

TBH I would be interested in migrating and hosting the website at my own expense.

Re: www.userfriendly.org seems to be gone, RIP Erwin, Dust Puppy and Co :(

#93
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A webcomic that started back when mid-sized US/Canadian towns really did have one-stop ISPs that employed both experienced sysadmins, the new web designers doing sites for local businesses, and students just getting started in IT - and were places where all of the above could actually advance or at least enjoy their careers, not just languish as call center drones. I was lucky enough to spend a couple of summers in h…

I started my career, kinda, as an unpaid admin (I was 14) for Panix.com, one of the oldest ISPs anywhere. Coincidentally, my wife started hers at Software Tool & Die / The World - the actual first ISP!

Re: www.userfriendly.org seems to be gone, RIP Erwin, Dust Puppy and Co :(

#94
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https://web.archive.org/web/20220225062754/http://ars.userfr...

The discussion on that last thread is interesting. Somebody put together a list of all of the marriages that came from people who met on that forum, and it was not a short list.

Interesting indeed, at least 6 couples.

Re: www.userfriendly.org seems to be gone, RIP Erwin, Dust Puppy and Co :(

#95

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Slashdot has always had firm political leanings that include opposition to censorship. And stupid conspiracy theories always claim they’re being suppressed, which thrives when they can point to it actually happening.

To the contrary, there's a lot of evidence that deplatforming actually works. In this case, it's not about getting rid of uncivil users, but dropping blatant trash. There are any number of website willing to host that filth. Why give them an additional platform out of a misguided sense of ideological purity, saying that horridly racist trolling is just as valid as any other content?

You've kinda lost track of object reality there: "Only logged in users who are deliberately un-hiding this content" is hardly "as valid as any other content".

Slashdot's attitude is that things which are "removed" (voted to zero) ought to be auditable. This means everyone knows what the rules REALLY are (as opposed to what people SAY they are), and it also prevents the system from being abused (since you can trivially link to examples of that abuse)

I really don't think an auditable record of moderation decisions is that bad, and you have to understand that this is NOT "content that is presented to regular users." I don't remember my login anymore, so I can't even figure out how to see the comment you linked - I'm sure if I logged in and reset myself to view negative scores I COULD see it, since I've used the site before, but it is distinctly non-trivial to do so.

Re: www.userfriendly.org seems to be gone, RIP Erwin, Dust Puppy and Co :(

#97

There were a number of early webcomics, with UF being among the more prominant. Others I recall: - "Cafe Hugo", I believe. Tagline included "vague enneui", possibly also "coffee, puns, ..." or something like that. Mostly college students / recent graduates and their life at a cafe. All traces seem lost. - "Westward Ho!" was a very short-lived, and I think intentionally limited, comic about a young woman engaged in fi…

doctor fun? https://nerocam.com/DrFun/Dave/archive.htm

Re: www.userfriendly.org seems to be gone, RIP Erwin, Dust Puppy and Co :(

#98
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I just wandered over to Slashdot earlier today. It's sad to see what it has become. It's also sad to see UF burn out as well. I miss Ye Olde Internets.

I've never really frequented Slashdot, I've taken a short look at it right now. What's going on with it that's so sad to look at? I feel like I'm missing context...

In its heyday, Slashdot was often (but not always) really timely with tech news, and was reasonably well-curated. The comments were generally numerous, and had a lot of genuine insight since the site tended to be frequented by actual IT/development professionals. Even the political discussion was fairly sincere. It also had an early user-driven moderation system, which while flawed, was enough to separate the wheat from the chaff. It anticipated Web 2.0 in a lot of ways.

I used to click on big posts, set the filter for Score: 3 or higher, and read through EVERYTHING. It'd take hours sometimes, and I'd learn a ton about all kinds of stuff. These were discussions, not just comments, and I think people took more pride in the quality of their contribution.

Like everything from back then, Slashdot got whittled down. It went through multiple acquisitions, and eventually became disconnected from all the original people behind it. Subsequent owners seemed to have no vision or connection with the community. There were some attempted changes that never seemed to go anywhere, but I think the most important thing about the acquisitions is just how bland the site became.

And of course, even if Slashdot had all those same people, everything else changed too... the industry, the people, the culture, the Internet, the whole world.

HN is the closest thing I know today to /. -- I'd say imagine an HN where editors curated the content, and with a lot more whimsy in its culture, and a lot more optimism. I don't expect to find any of that today on Slashdot, and when I do click through to the comments I find them to be very one-dimensional and tired.

Re: www.userfriendly.org seems to be gone, RIP Erwin, Dust Puppy and Co :(

#99
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A webcomic that started back when mid-sized US/Canadian towns really did have one-stop ISPs that employed both experienced sysadmins, the new web designers doing sites for local businesses, and students just getting started in IT - and were places where all of the above could actually advance or at least enjoy their careers, not just languish as call center drones. I was lucky enough to spend a couple of summers in h…

Yup. I remember having issues as a teenager getting ISP service in Australia in the 90s. I hopped on a train and a bus to their office, handed over an envelope with a few months payments in cash, and they walked me back to a rack, jumped on a Linux console and 'adduser'ed me.

Re: www.userfriendly.org seems to be gone, RIP Erwin, Dust Puppy and Co :(

#100
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Dilbert was a lot more generic too. I think most companies reflected Dilbert in one way or another. But User Friendly was a lot more specialised. At least that’s how I remembered them.

Agreed. Dilbert was for if you worked in an office building doing pretty much anything. User Friendly was for a very specific niche of people who either worked at mid-sized ISPs (like MandieD wrote: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30593421 ) or who supporter or empathized with people who worked at mid-sized ISPs. "Thank you for calling Columbia Internet, this is Miranda."

Mostly. Every once in a while Dilbert would surprise:

Dilbert: My company asked all employees to act as salespeople to friends and family. I think you could use this, mom.

Dilbert's mom: Why would I need a primary rate circuit? I've already got a frame relay drop to my web server in the sewing room.

Dilbert (thought bubble): This is going to be a tough sale.

Dilbert's mom: Hello-o-o! Earth to Dilbert! This is packet data ...

Source: https://www.gocomics.com/dilbert-classics/2019/11/19

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