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Re: Reddit blocks posting any .ru links

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Post by everybodyknows »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #47
conjecTech wrote: post #20

Top comment from an admin: """ We decided to do this due to the heavy cyber component to this war and the chance of manipulated content. Even seemingly innocuous links could be hosted by someone that is less benign. We certainly recognize that this is a pretty far reaching decision but there are generally other ways for most people to share the type of content that is being described. As to why this wasn't communicat…

They are saying someone might post information on an .ru link that they don't want people to see. Isn't that basic censorship? That said, this is just par for the course of Reddit. Just like how every subreddit has arbitrary rules that discourage viewpoints the moderators don't want people to see whether that's Bitcoin Cash on r/bitcoin or getting scolded by a mod on r/vancouver when I said something bad about the DT…

So now, those who attempt to analyze Putin's state of mind by close reading of his public pronouncements -- in full, from kremlin.ru -- need a different forum. We are collectively deciding by default that understanding the enemy is unnecessary, at least not necessary for us ordinary citizens. Necessary only for some elite, membership criteria for which proceed to tighten.

This is a betrayal of one of the core values that make a liberal, rules-based order worth fighting for.

Re: Reddit blocks posting any .ru links

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Post by [deleted] »

Hoasi wrote: post #76
ehsankia wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being blocked from sharing Russian-owned content is absolutely nothing like being cut off from the internet or information. At best it's limiting the spread of Russian-owned content. I'm not sure why HN comments are so quick to make these extreme fear-mongering comparisons. Just yesterday I saw a top comment comparing Youtube removing a video to Chinese censorship...

Information wants to be free. If free speech is paramount to democracy, we shouldn't discriminate. Most people understand there is an information war at play. Most people know that information is either propaganda or carries an agenda. If you cut one opponent's voice, then it's not balanced. Why shouldn't we defend the right for Russian media to promote their narrative? Besides, legitimate, unrelated stories from one…

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Re: Reddit blocks posting any .ru links

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Post by b0sk »

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #3

Truth Social will be far right and have bizarre views but unfortunately that is where I would have to go to with the immense censorship in the mainstream internet and media. I really wish this wasn't the case.

Yea that’s going to go well for you — https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-truth-social-de...

Re: Reddit blocks posting any .ru links

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Post by sterlind »

xdennis wrote: post #55
remram wrote: post #4

This just seems completely backwards. We lament every time a country in crisis/civil war blocks Internet for its citizens: Sudan, Kazakhstan, Burkina Faso, Yemen, ... and then we cut Russia from the Internet on our side [1] If the point of sanctions is to get the local population to rise and make it difficult for the government to keep its course, why cut out their access to independent news that would let them know…

You can't have free speech during a war. There's no point in getting the local population to rise up because the vast majority of Russians are pro-Putin fascists. Even western poll show that they're pro-Putin. The point is to quarantine Russia so that it doesn't infect us.

have you like, actually talked to Russians? I have a number of ethnic Russian friends and I've been active on some Russian-language discords/subreddits. the ones I've talked to are aghast at this and blaming themselves for staying out of politics up until now.

there's selection bias since I'm finding Russians who are on Western social media platforms, but still, I don't think you can claim the "vast majority" are like this.

Re: Reddit blocks posting any .ru links

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Post by quantum_solanum »

Scandiravian wrote: post #90
dilap wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's talking about the Azov battalion. From wikipedia: > Azov Special Operations Detachment is a right-wing extremist and neo-Nazi unit of the National Guard of Ukraine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion Neo-nazis and hard-right nationalists were instrumental in the violent coup of the democratically-elected government in 2014, and have since taken positions in the replacement government. I recommend this…

The article you link is written by Alexander Rubinstein - a former RT and Sputnik employee. He is a strong denier of Russian interference in the 2016 election, has been vocal in his support for Assad, and denied, not only China's genocide on Uyghurs, but that the Uyghur population even exists. There's an article on The Gray Zone by the center for right wing analysis here https://www.radicalrightanalysis.com/2020/09/2…

here's an article [1] from Bellingcat (who are certainly quite different from RT and Gray Zone in terms of bias):

> In the most high-profile, but far from isolated, incident showing how Ukraine’s far-right movement is being mainstreamed by government leaders, Ukrainian Prime Minister Honcharuk and the Minister of Veterans Affairs Oksana Koliada appeared at an October 2019 event organized by a far-right figure on trial for murder. The event, called “Veterans Strong”, was headlined by the neo-Nazi band Sokyra Peruna, well known for its white supremacist, Holocaust-denying, and anti-Semitic lyrics.

> Some of their greatest hits include "Six Million Words of Lies"... [2]

Mayor of Konotop Artem Semenikhin was interviewed on PBS [3] this past week, and had a portrait of Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera [4] hanging in the background.

[1] https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2019/11/11/ukr...

[2] https://twitter.com/bellingcat/status/1193919249007415297

[3] https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/russian-forces-bombard-tar...

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera#Jews

Re: Reddit blocks posting any .ru links

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Post by veganhouseDJ »

rasengan wrote: post #2

This is how free speech dies.

This is such an insane war on "misinformation".

I would give anything to go back to usenet and that everything would be taken with a grain of salt because it is usenet.

That is never going to happen though. We are society of automatons now who have mostly outsourced their thinking to the mob/group mind of social media.

If you read Le Bon or Freud's work on group psychology it may as well be talking about social media in 2022.

"The feelings of the group are always very simple and very exaggerated. So that the group knows neither doubt nor uncertainty. It goes directly to extremes, if a suspicion is expressed, it is instantly changed into an incontrovertible certainty."

Re: Reddit blocks posting any .ru links

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Post by 8note »

Hoasi wrote: post #76
ehsankia wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being blocked from sharing Russian-owned content is absolutely nothing like being cut off from the internet or information. At best it's limiting the spread of Russian-owned content. I'm not sure why HN comments are so quick to make these extreme fear-mongering comparisons. Just yesterday I saw a top comment comparing Youtube removing a video to Chinese censorship...

Information wants to be free. If free speech is paramount to democracy, we shouldn't discriminate. Most people understand there is an information war at play. Most people know that information is either propaganda or carries an agenda. If you cut one opponent's voice, then it's not balanced. Why shouldn't we defend the right for Russian media to promote their narrative? Besides, legitimate, unrelated stories from one…

Democracy discriminates based on citizenship, so discriminating free speech based on citizenship makes a clear match.

Re: Reddit blocks posting any .ru links

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Post by 8note »

throwaway22032 wrote: post #59
4ggr0 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Blocking .ru URLs is ten times worse than a war and desinformation?

No, the cumulative impact of attempting to erase the existence of a nuclear state by trying to find a loophole is.

Why does their nuclear status matter? Are Russian websites a branch of the Russian military?

Re: Reddit blocks posting any .ru links

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Post by Markoff »

throwaway22032 wrote: post #28

This is so ridiculous. For christ's sake, I use Yandex translate because it's better for Russian. I now can't link that on a language learning subreddit. I'm not Russian. It's not as if Russians can't just register .com domains either. This is just fucking people around purely for the sake of it. What should I do here? Fly to Russia and tell Mr Putin to stop? It feels like corona all over again. Bad thing A happens,…

just out of curiosity, have you tried DeepL, I use it daily for Slavic languages

Yandex has also .com domain, won't your links work through that?

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