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Re: Advice on accessing BBC News

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most European public broadcasters have a deep political bias, so much so that many advocate for their privatization. Previously in Norway you at least had the option to not pay the mandatory subscription by claiming that you didn't own a TV, but then the leader of the party with the most voters who wanted it privatized, the Progress Party (FRP), made sure that it came on the tax bill instead...

Those people who advocate for privatisation just want to replace it with their own bullshit. You'll be amazed how few actually want unbiased reporting.

You want other people to be forced to pay for the content you consume.

Re: Advice on accessing BBC News

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post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most European public broadcasters have a deep political bias, so much so that many advocate for their privatization. Previously in Norway you at least had the option to not pay the mandatory subscription by claiming that you didn't own a TV, but then the leader of the party with the most voters who wanted it privatized, the Progress Party (FRP), made sure that it came on the tax bill instead...

Those people who advocate for privatisation just want to replace it with their own bullshit. You'll be amazed how few actually want unbiased reporting.

So that's why they should be forced to pay for biased reporting that they do not want in the first place? Tell you what, Norway has a proud tradition of honest biased reporting; the party press. It's been toned down now, but I'm not sure it's for the better. Used to be that if your read Aftenposten (The Evening Post), you would know that you read an outlet for the Conservative Party. Meanwhile, if you read Arbeiderbladet (The Worker's Paper), you know you got an outlet for the Labour Party. And that was a good thing! Because you got what you asked for, and if you wanted more view-points - and many did - they'd simply buy both! But nobody likes getting something they don't want, much less paying for it.

Re: Advice on accessing BBC News

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What's with the random characters in the Tor URL? Are Tor URLs always like that? www.bbcnewsd73hkzno2ini43t4gblxvycyac5aw4gnv7t2rccijh7745uqd.onion/

Yes, it's an encoded public key, identifying the service. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.onion#Format even "bbcnews" is part of that key, probably brute-forced until that prefix was found.

It must've been brute-forced. According to this one old brute forcer I found [1] but have not thoroughly vetted, it would've been one CPU-day of effort on 2012-era hardware

[1] https://github.com/katmagic/Shallot

Re: Advice on accessing BBC News

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Interestingly, they also work for accessing RT and Sputnik from the EU that are banning them.

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Good analysis!

But you should consider another quite radical hypothesis: people can freely have political opinion different from yours, and they are not being paid by some evil puppet-master!

I know, it’s not easy!

Re: Advice on accessing BBC News

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> If you find it difficult to get the two applications above from AppStore or Google Play Store, please send a blank email to get@psiphon3.com or gettor@torproject.org, respectively. You will then be sent an email with a direct and safe download link. How safe is this? I don’t know much about email security. Can the ISP intercept and edit the email message?

For the Psiphon mail responder, we configure Postfix with `smtp_tls_security_level=verify` and `smtpd_tls_security_level=encrypt` (with three "may" domain exceptions, unfortunately). So, the email should be encrypted through the ISP.

Of course, if your ISP is also your email provider (get a new email provider), then your ISP will be able to see and modify your email.

We also sign our apps and provide detailed instructions for verifying the authenticity of them: https://psiphon.ca/en/faq.html#verify-psiphon-authentic (You can't get to that if you can't get to the internet, but it's hard to do much better. We can't email the instructions, since then the instructions could also be modified. But it's entirely possible for some users to be able to load a webpage but not download a 6MB binary.)

Re: Advice on accessing BBC News

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s really not “incredibly pro-government”. It’s anti-rapid change; pro-middle class; pro-a-comfortable-quality-of-life; anti “changing the system” whilst still “improving on the details”. Some of its reporting feels pro-government because it’s telling the story of what the government is saying it’s doing. Watch any of the “just off the peak time” broadcasting and it’s very keen to hold politicians to account, to po…

In addition to your points, the perspective is rather "metropolitan socially-liberal". I would disagree that they are anti rapid change on social issues.

> I would disagree that they are anti rapid change on social issues.

Eh, no. The BBC is institutionally anti LGBT, like much of the establishment in the UK.

As just one example, a few months ago they did a hit piece, to equate trans people with sexual offenders. Curiously, the loudest anti trans voice in the article was herself a sexual offender. However the BBC was okay with not disclosing that, and then platforming her.

Later, emboldened by the BBC piece, said anti trans activist wrote a manifesto—just like a neo Nazi or a school shooter does—calling for the elimination of trans people. No apology from the BBC, and they didn't even pull the piece.

Re: Advice on accessing BBC News

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I'm always a bit perplexed when people hold up the BBC as an example of a respectable, unbiased news source - a lot of their stuff is ham-fisted, and some of it is flat-out propaganda. I wouldn't say they are noticeably worse than other media staples - everything is biased - but they don't deserve to be on the pedestal they are put on.

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