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Re: Cut Russia from GitHub due to invasion of Ukraine

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Post by alkonaut »

gspetr wrote: post #89
alkonaut wrote: post #77

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You are! But you (still) have elections to do it in. Are there any politicians in particular from the WMD era you think should be ousted?

Mainstream media figures are buddy-buddy with G.W. Bush, so what are you talking about? https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ellen-degeneres-defends-george-...

Are you talking about “overthrowing leaders” who stopped being leaders a decade ago?

Or “overthrowing” Ellen Degeneres?

Or sending GWB to The Hague?

I’m not following.

Re: Cut Russia from GitHub due to invasion of Ukraine

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Post by number6 »

jzb wrote: post #6
neverminder wrote: post #3

Why not cut off Russia from the internet and any form of tech really? That would send them into a free fall, wouldn't it? Some people immediately bring up China, but those who know history, know very well that China is Russia's frenemy at best. I'm just speculating here, but what if say Microsoft sent a Russia-wide update that wipes all data and kills Windows?

How would Microsoft restrict it to Russia? Assuming it’s possible, why would any country trust Microsoft afterwards?

Why trust them right now?

Re: Cut Russia from GitHub due to invasion of Ukraine

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Post by throwawaylinux »

yuppie_scum wrote: post #66
throwawaylinux wrote: post #25

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How about China?

“Whataboutism” is not helpful. Focus on the problem at hand.

China is the problem at hand, among many.

Examining arguments for logical consistency and reasoning is very helpful to find flaws in them.

Re: Cut Russia from GitHub due to invasion of Ukraine

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Post by Aeolun »

gggggh wrote: post #61
Aeolun wrote: post #43

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Not the same imperialism. The US was clearly never planning to stay in Iraq and Afghanistan. They grossly miscalculated. For Russia this is a war of expansion. I think under those conditions Israel could be cut off though.

Interesting how that additional criteria conveniently excludes the US.

Don’t think that’s particularly convenient, there’s plenty of other reasons to cut the US off. Just not very realistic.

Re: Cut Russia from GitHub due to invasion of Ukraine

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Post by Aeolun »

nickpp wrote: post #53
Aeolun wrote: post #35

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I imagine if the whole world was using a Russian VCS site, and silicon valley was a region of moscow these same discussions would take place in reverse. Cutting off the US for their invasion of Iraq would have seemed pretty reasonable. But maybe not so much, since that country was provably ruled by a dictator, so people wouldn’t feel the same about the attack as about one made on a liberal democracy.

"Imagine if the good guys were bad and the bad guys good." But they aren't. And you know why? Because you can't have creativity and innovations without freedom. You can't have money and success without a population where the best and most successful are allowed to create and keep a large part of the value they build. This is why dictatorships never build Silicon Valleys while their best and brightest quietly emigrate…

To some extend this is true, but I think China tells is that there is a balance somewhere, even if we haven’t quite found it yet.
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