I agree with the author, but a convenient workaround is to use a bookmarklet: http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2007/07/useful-google-bookm...
Hey Google, I want my cache links back
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Re: Hey Google, I want my cache links back
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I feel like I'm missing relevant and useful results a thousand times a day. More and more, DDG is just a !gateway to google.
I used DDG for about a month as my main search engine, I love the bang syntax and lots of other goodies, but for me down in Brazil DDG just responds 10-15x slower than Google -- so my commitment is that I will keep coming back to test for latency improvements until I can switch over completely.
I don't think that's strongly geography-related. I see the same thing from California with a very fast connection.
If you search for some things (try "stack overflow" or "red bull"), you seem to get a near-instant results for the thing judged most likely/relevant in a red box at the top of the page, then the "ordinary" results are loaded separately, I think in a separate javascript call.
They seem to have a some split architecture that keeps a few bits spooled up for quick retrieval, and say to heck with the rest. My first instinct would be that they're RAM-poor, and also wonder if, not being able to cache sufficiently in RAM, they're also being hamstrung by I/O performance on EC2.
Re: Hey Google, I want my cache links back
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If you want Googles search results, but without all the interface spaff, use Scroogle: https://ssl.scroogle.org/
I really dislike services like that. Searches cost real money to Google, using them through that is almost stealing, in my opinion. Just use a different search engine. EDIT: I'd like if someone would reply if they disagree. Do you dispute that each search costs money to Google, or what?
I feel no guilt. Google's main revenue stream is advertisements, which I will never click on. Yet, I still use Google continuously. Does that mean I'm stealing? Either way I'm getting something for free and not contributing to their revenue.
Re: Hey Google, I want my cache links back
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String literals seem to be ignored now too. ("quoted terms")
No, they are not. Only if Google can’t find anything – which makes a lot of sense.
Yes, they are. I don't have the example handy, so you'll have to take my word for it. My query was 'sqlalchemy "some quoted phrase"' and the first result didn't contain the phrase anywhere in the page.
Out of desperation, I tried a +, and when that didn't work I sent my first feedback to Google.
Re: Hey Google, I want my cache links back
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For me, more than visual cruft (although I would argue there is more of that than before) - it's interaction cruft. Big annoyances for me: 1. Auto suggesting and searching for words I didn't mean - common with technical phrases 2. Ignoring "quoted terms" and searching for them as an AND instead 3. Auto refreshing the results page as I modify my terms - it makes the experience slower, and I don't need to see results f…
Google does not ignore quoted terms. I for one love instant and suggestions.
Google does not ignore quoted terms.
Many times it seems like it does, to the extent that I've even gone back and replaced double-quotes with singles in hopes that the parser distinguishes literals.
Re: Hey Google, I want my cache links back
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No, they are not. Only if Google can’t find anything – which makes a lot of sense.
Yes, they are. I don't have the example handy, so you'll have to take my word for it. My query was 'sqlalchemy "some quoted phrase"' and the first result didn't contain the phrase anywhere in the page. Out of desperation, I tried a +, and when that didn't work I sent my first feedback to Google.
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Re: Hey Google, I want my cache links back
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No, they are not. Only if Google can’t find anything – which makes a lot of sense.
Yes, they are. I don't have the example handy, so you'll have to take my word for it. My query was 'sqlalchemy "some quoted phrase"' and the first result didn't contain the phrase anywhere in the page. Out of desperation, I tried a +, and when that didn't work I sent my first feedback to Google.
Google couldn’t find anything and striped the quotes away.
Re: Hey Google, I want my cache links back
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If you want Googles search results, but without all the interface spaff, use Scroogle: https://ssl.scroogle.org/
I really dislike services like that. Searches cost real money to Google, using them through that is almost stealing, in my opinion. Just use a different search engine. EDIT: I'd like if someone would reply if they disagree. Do you dispute that each search costs money to Google, or what?
This is absurd. It's like worrying about charging your laptop in Google's offices because it increases their electricity bill.
Re: Hey Google, I want my cache links back
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Google does not ignore quoted terms. I for one love instant and suggestions.
Google does not ignore quoted terms. Many times it seems like it does, to the extent that I've even gone back and replaced double-quotes with singles in hopes that the parser distinguishes literals.
Well, Google sensibly ignore quotes if it doesn’t find anything which is probably what happened to you. Would you rather Google to just display that it found nothing?
Re: Hey Google, I want my cache links back
#100I'm just getting fucking sick of it. This includes supporting a number of "normal" users on Google products. Of course, my/our opinion doesn't count. Nonetheless, Google UI and support (cough) are now actively pushing me away.