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Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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Is the iPhone 4 still the same price that it was when it came out? This reminds me of April 2010 when I wrote a couple articles about how Apple is fairly unique among computer manufacturers for charging enormous prices for old hardware and going so long without update or a price drop. In April 2010, depending on the week, you bought a Macbook Pro that was miserably outdated or a Macbook Pro that was very modern for p…

The thing geeks don't realize is that Apple doesn't sell "hardware" - they sell an appliance. This year's GE dishwasher won't get cheaper as the year goes on - it'll just get replaced by a newer model at some point. Similarly, a Toyota Prius won't get cheaper as the year wears on, it'll also just get replaced by a new model, at the same price (with the requisite temporary discount to clear old stock). And the other t…

You have changed my mind. I think you're right here and must agree.

Unlike a dishwasher though, it still seems like a snubbing to any enthusiasts (I can only assume that dishwasher entusiasts are few, compared to Mac/hardware enthusiasts). But Apple (like most companies) cannot simply cater to such a minority, so c'est la vie.

Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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The mass market already cares about voice-to-text, it's heavily used by Android users (according to the Google-provided data).

True fact. Voice search on Android works flawlessly and I use it all the time in the car.

Except for the 30-something-item-long "Did you mean" list that forces me to look at and physically manipulate the phone, it works amazingly well.

Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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The thing geeks don't realize is that Apple doesn't sell "hardware" - they sell an appliance. This year's GE dishwasher won't get cheaper as the year goes on - it'll just get replaced by a newer model at some point. Similarly, a Toyota Prius won't get cheaper as the year wears on, it'll also just get replaced by a new model, at the same price (with the requisite temporary discount to clear old stock). And the other t…

You have changed my mind. I think you're right here and must agree. Unlike a dishwasher though, it still seems like a snubbing to any enthusiasts (I can only assume that dishwasher entusiasts are few, compared to Mac/hardware enthusiasts). But Apple (like most companies) cannot simply cater to such a minority, so c'est la vie.

Enthusiasts know that Apple product cycles are pretty predictable (especially now that they follow a bit behind the Intel roadmap), and there's plenty of tools to help you track if it's a good time to buy or not.

http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/

Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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Might be too much speculation, but the first thing I thought when I saw the maps icon was a hint that they'd reveal their own non-google maps system.

That would indeed be huge, but I'd be a bit worried, as Google Maps has been the market leader for some time. More likely, they've made improvements that distinguish the iPhone in an Apple-esque way, and probably increased the likelyhood that iOS maps could be switched to say, Bing in a more direct fashion.

I wonder how many iPhone users realize that the Maps app on their phone is powered by Google maps?

Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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Might be too much speculation, but the first thing I thought when I saw the maps icon was a hint that they'd reveal their own non-google maps system.

Probably just turn-by-turn spoken directions or voice command input, if anything.

Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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Seriously, look at the design of the invite. Calendar says Tuesday (October) 4th. Clock says 10am. Map app says this will take place at 1 Infinite Loop. And the Phone icon makes it clear this will be an iPhone event (rather than an iPod Touch / iOS event), with one unread notification alerting you that there is something you must pay attention to. They say everything in 4 icons. So awesome.

I bet the 1 on the phone is for "one more thing"; they're going to call up Steve Jobs and talk with him since he can't be there live on stage.

I read it to mean: only one new phone. I hope you're right, an iPhone 5 and a 4s would be big news.

Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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Seriously, look at the design of the invite. Calendar says Tuesday (October) 4th. Clock says 10am. Map app says this will take place at 1 Infinite Loop. And the Phone icon makes it clear this will be an iPhone event (rather than an iPod Touch / iOS event), with one unread notification alerting you that there is something you must pay attention to. They say everything in 4 icons. So awesome.

I bet the 1 on the phone is for "one more thing"; they're going to call up Steve Jobs and talk with him since he can't be there live on stage.

I imagine Jobs will be there. He'll probably avoid the stage in order to not upstage Tim Cook's first big event but Cook may ask him to come out briefly at the end or they might do a call like you suggest.

Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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Interesting. I have heard from so many friends that current iPhone camera is about as good as it can get. Curious what you are expecting more - just bumped up mega pixels? Not sure how much that would matter - going from 5MP to 8MP for e.g.

If you look at some of stuff at SIGGRAPH in computational photography, you could add a couple of more 5mp sensors and create some truly amazing images given the iPhone's programability. A 4 sensor iPhone (5mp or the newer 8mp) would be amazing.

I agree, but I do not see how one would fit them on an iPhone, and leave room (for both left- and right-handed users) to hold the thing.

Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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If you look at some of stuff at SIGGRAPH in computational photography, you could add a couple of more 5mp sensors and create some truly amazing images given the iPhone's programability. A 4 sensor iPhone (5mp or the newer 8mp) would be amazing.

I agree, but I do not see how one would fit them on an iPhone, and leave room (for both left- and right-handed users) to hold the thing.

Just put them right next to each other in a 2 x 2. The amount of room is pretty small. They should also improve the camera API to allow full use like the FCam API.

ref: http://graphics.stanford.edu/papers/fcam/

Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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Wow. We're debating the presence of "one notification" to be a response to extremely speculative rumors of a "cloud iPhone" (in the day of poor batteries and data-caps?) Or that Assistant, even in this thread, is being touted as revolutionary? Or that people seem to attribute webOS with Android-style notifications despite being later to the game? The iPhone 4 is gorgeous and iOS is in a class of it's own, but I can n…

Your entire message is a strawman; there is nothing in this thread which supports your claims.

There are 3 comments in here speculating that the '1' is specifically about one model of an iPhone. There are at least 2 comments praising the magicalness of Assistant. The notifications misconception is one that is popular around here and even amongst the "geekier" people I know. I knew it wouldn't be a popular opinion, but my comments are not a terribly unfair depiction of the reaction to iOS announcements on HN.
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