I never even considered people bought fonts for local dev use. Sounds pretty steep.
MonoLisa – A font designed for developers
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Re: MonoLisa – A font designed for developers
#92There is a font on my KDE desktop called just "Monospace" and its a great font. I can't find a font file called Monospace. Does anybody know what the font is? I would love to have it on my windows machine.
I'm guessing this is just whatever the default monospace font is rather than being a font called Monospace.
Re: MonoLisa – A font designed for developers
#93I don't understand how they can advertise this font being "wider" than other ones. I skipped all those modern Programming Fonts because none of them is as condensed and readable as "TheSans Mono Condensed".
That font is terrible because its basically still ASCII only, but I use it everywhere. I would pay good money for a Unicode version.
Re: MonoLisa – A font designed for developers
#94There is a font on my KDE desktop called just "Monospace" and its a great font. I can't find a font file called Monospace. Does anybody know what the font is? I would love to have it on my windows machine.
I'm pretty sure the default "monospace" font in KDE is mapped to Hack: https://sourcefoundry.org/hack/
Re: MonoLisa – A font designed for developers
#95I wonder how many people glancing at the landing page have browsed over to the download page, and discovered that this a paid font? To the tune of $69 to $239, depending on the options you want. If this were something really revolutionary, then okay. But this looks like every other Bitstream Vera Sans Mono variant, just tweaked to be a touch wider than Fira Code or Jetbrains Mono. But half of the fonts on https://www…
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Re: MonoLisa – A font designed for developers
#96I wonder how many people glancing at the landing page have browsed over to the download page, and discovered that this a paid font? To the tune of $69 to $239, depending on the options you want. If this were something really revolutionary, then okay. But this looks like every other Bitstream Vera Sans Mono variant, just tweaked to be a touch wider than Fira Code or Jetbrains Mono. But half of the fonts on https://www…
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Re: MonoLisa – A font designed for developers
#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Isn't "increased width" an ungodly sin to the developer lord? If anything we want to see more in a given space, not less... I think it increases readability. I need to read what I'm looking at, not a lot of things I'm not looking at.
Not if a part of a line is out of the window right? This makes splitting harder, therefore, reading harder
Then make your window wider. Bam, problem solved.
"But then I can't see as many windows!" That brings us back to the GP's I need to see what I'm looking at, not what I'm not looking at". When you want to look at those other windows, bring them to the foreground and let them obscure this one.
Re: MonoLisa – A font designed for developers
#98I wonder how many people glancing at the landing page have browsed over to the download page, and discovered that this a paid font? To the tune of $69 to $239, depending on the options you want. If this were something really revolutionary, then okay. But this looks like every other Bitstream Vera Sans Mono variant, just tweaked to be a touch wider than Fira Code or Jetbrains Mono. But half of the fonts on https://www…
People charging $199 for a slightly wider Lucida Console, you can't make this shit up. The marketing is so outrageous. In case someone's seriously considering this, here are an additional two sites that have literally hundreds of CC0 and other free to use fonts, not just monospace: https://www.1001freefonts.com http://allfont.net DIN 1451 Mittelschrift is my personal favorite.
I wanted to let you know I'm upvoting you, not for the useful links you have provided, but because I also love DIN, to an unreasonable degree, like the kind of feeling that makes someone otherwise totally rational marry a pokemon.
When I was about 20, after the Berlin wall came down, I rode my bike round berlin, then all round east then west Germany for three months, sleeping rough in the forest most of the time, and I think the font, on road signs everywhere, soaked into me as linked to that summer.
But you know what really creeps me about this font. It has a history dating back to the start of the 20th century as letterforms for hand painted signs, but Deutsche Industrienorm 1451 was created in 1936, the year of the of the Berlin Olympics, concentration camps had been open for three years, Triumph of the Will was released the year before. If you've never seen 'Triumph of the Will' it's an experience, I'd never understood how the fascists had managed to appeal to enough people to actually win an election, but in that film you see how they presented themselves to the people of Germany at the time and it was sophisticated. There's a moment in the film in which hilter interacts with an unemployed labourer, and in that interaction he imbues this guy with a sense of purpose, hitler has told him he is a soldier - a soldier with a shovel, it's nonsense, but it is carefully crafted nonsense. It seems to me that DIN is part of this carefully crafted propaganda, a tool to help project an vision of Nazi Germany as rational, orderly, scientific, rigorous and correct. And it does the job, like the unemployed labourer, I respond to it exactly the way goebbels would want me to.
I know I can use a Roman road without endorsing the invasion of Gaul, but there's still a horror there millennia later.
Re: MonoLisa – A font designed for developers
#99Unfortunately not available to compare on https://www.programmingfonts.org/ While I'm here: Victor Mono has been my programming font of choice for a while now: https://rubjo.github.io/victor-mono/ Oh, look at that, the Victor Mono homepage has a font comparison slider that allows you to compare it to MonoLisa! MonoLisa advertises that it's wider than other monospace fonts, and you can really see that in the compariso…
IMHO Airbus' effort is better.
https://github.com/polarsys/b612
Serifs are known to be less readable on screens. Each to their own but to me that MonoLisa thing is sort of half-serif... it's ... inconsistent and terrible. Possibly a joke.
Re: MonoLisa – A font designed for developers
#100I'm going to hop on my hobby horse again for a second: One of their first points is this: >Designing a monospace font is much harder than a traditional, proportional one: being constrained by the same width of all glyphs can result in a boring or unreadable font. And they're absolutely right. But it begs the first-principals question-- why code using a monospace font? Today, every major editor that isn't terminal-bas…
> And they're absolutely right. But it begs the first-principals question-- why code using a monospace font? Today, every major editor that isn't terminal-based supports proportional width fonts beautifully. There was a whole "coding font" family designed around the idea that we should be using proportional fonts for this, and it makes a great case... https://input.djr.com/info/ ...except that just about every time I…
Textmate 2 had some support for proportional width and different heights and styles in its early days. Don’t know how it panned out since I’ve since stopped using it.