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Re: Google+ Opens to All

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Post by r00fus »

sjs382 wrote: post #5

...almost everyone. "Google+ is not yet available for Google Apps. Learn More." I should have known better than to get my hopes up...

I think they will eventually have this option. Considering how important G+ is for Google, I don't see how they can keep the Apps folks in a ghetto much longer.

The big question is, whether they integrate circles in a special Apps-specific way (ie, default circle, private shared circles -- assuming "shared circles" are upcoming, etc)... some Apps domain owners (big orgs, gov) may NOT WANT G+ inclusion for their flock.

Re: Google+ Opens to All

#92

Post by willy1234x1 »

Kylekramer wrote: post #80

The fact that dozens of comments think 90 days is too long for a service to be invite only shows we are really in a instant gratification news bubble here. 90 days! People act like we are talking about Chinese Democracy or Duke Nukem Forever here (not to mention that for about 80 of those days getting in was merely a five minute search process for anyone who really cared). The majority of comments here are about too…

I think people are convinced that services must blow up immediately to be relevant. They forget that even Facebook took time to grow. I remember when it first opened to people outside of colleges and I was an early adopter, there were literally maybe only 30 people on Facebook I knew. I think Google+ is going to be a success and the reason for that is because of the integration with other Google services, as the platform matures people are going to find little reason to stick with Facebook or other services when G+ will have all their friends plus integration into all the Google services.

Re: Google+ Opens to All

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Post by sjs382 »

r00fus wrote: post #91
sjs382 wrote: post #5

...almost everyone. "Google+ is not yet available for Google Apps. Learn More." I should have known better than to get my hopes up...

I think they will eventually have this option. Considering how important G+ is for Google, I don't see how they can keep the Apps folks in a ghetto much longer. The big question is, whether they integrate circles in a special Apps-specific way (ie, default circle, private shared circles -- assuming "shared circles" are upcoming, etc)... some Apps domain owners (big orgs, gov) may NOT WANT G+ inclusion for their flock…

Administrators can already enable/disable specific Google services for their domain. G+ & Google Profiles should be no different.

Re: Google+ Opens to All

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Post by lambada »

sjs382 wrote: post #5

...almost everyone. "Google+ is not yet available for Google Apps. Learn More." I should have known better than to get my hopes up...

According to http://groups.google.com/group/google-plus-developers/browse...

We should star the following issue: http://code.google.com/p/google-plus-platform/issues/detail?...

Apparently, no-one had thought to let Google know that this is a needed feature (despite Googlers posting once in a blue-moon about this issue over on the discussion groups).

Re: Google+ Opens to All

#95

Post by amartya916 »

brador wrote: post #52
suivix wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with your reasoning. Everything you do on Google+ can be flagged, and you're at risk of losing your Gmail account by using Google+. Even a name change could put your whole account in jeopardy.

The worst part is there's very little you can do to give your side of the story. Their judgements are practically final unless you're sleeping with a Google employee who can have an internal chat to clear your name. But like I said, right now, you couldn't pay me to sign up to Google+. If it ever becomes mandatory, I'm moving my emails out.

I recommend setting up a local mail client (say Mail on the Mac, Thunderbird etc.). I just recently did this; the rationale being that I'd at least get to keep my e-mails and contacts. So even if GMail conks out or they throw me out for whatever reason, the situation won't be that bad. I think Google's a great company that provides really important services, but I'd rather hedge my bets than rely on them completely.

Re: Google+ Opens to All

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Post by broot »

Kylekramer wrote: post #80

The fact that dozens of comments think 90 days is too long for a service to be invite only shows we are really in a instant gratification news bubble here. 90 days! People act like we are talking about Chinese Democracy or Duke Nukem Forever here (not to mention that for about 80 of those days getting in was merely a five minute search process for anyone who really cared). The majority of comments here are about too…

I think you're right, the invite window doesn't matter, but like the first 100 days of a presidency, it's a solid enough chunk of time to think about what Google+ has accomplished, and I would argue that the answer is "not much."

The invite window won't kill G+, but apathy will. About a fifth of my Facebook friends are on it, but only 3 out of a hundred post anything. A successful competitor would need to stand for something other than "well, it's not Facebook."

It may find a niche as a long-form twitter (which is something I can't believe Facebook waited so long to do) but the initial excitement has run its course.

Re: Google+ Opens to All

#97

Post by muyuu »

Google+ first didn't let me to use a different name for my account, and then showed me a nice dialog, in words to this effect: "do you want to link Picasa to your account? (yes) (cancel Google+ account creation)"

So long, Google+

Re: Google+ Opens to All

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Post by joebadmo »

Kylekramer wrote: post #80

The fact that dozens of comments think 90 days is too long for a service to be invite only shows we are really in a instant gratification news bubble here. 90 days! People act like we are talking about Chinese Democracy or Duke Nukem Forever here (not to mention that for about 80 of those days getting in was merely a five minute search process for anyone who really cared). The majority of comments here are about too…

I agree. What do you think are the important issues? Mine are:

- APIs (looks like there's significant progress)

- Open-source/open standards/federation (nothing yet)

(I think the second one would really sort of take care of the nymwars and the Google Apps issues, too.)

I've got a ton of feature requests, but those two are what I would consider serious/disruptive.

Re: Google+ Opens to All

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Post by fryguy »

sjs382 wrote: post #5

...almost everyone. "Google+ is not yet available for Google Apps. Learn More." I should have known better than to get my hopes up...

I went and deleted my google apps for my domain account and just forwarded my email to my gmail account because of this. It was just too painful having two accounts.
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