One player is missing on this table, the biggest one: YouTube. Not Music, just YouTube. They're beating all others in play counts by a magnitude.
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#92Am i the only tidal user left?
Surprised they are so small. I use Tidal and I'm very happy with it. I switched after Spotify gave a ton of money to the podcast moron Joe Rogan and haven't looked back since (in addition to it being problematic to give money to someone like Joe Rogan, I also dislike how they are trying to own podcasts).
I do wish I were able to use my Tidal iPhone app as a remote like Spotify can and that their AI suggestions would improve (Spotify has become really good here).
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#93I am all in on Apple and only a few dollars away from the Apple One bundle being worth it for me but I just don't like Apple Music. The UI is just too difficult to use and it feels slower than it should be, definitely slower than Spotify. While I have no love for Spotify's podcast ventures and dislike them trying to push me to listen to podcasts on their platform, I do love it for music and it "Just Works". Also I ca…
Spotify is a nonstarter for me because I can't upload my own music. I don't want to be beholden to whatever they decide I can listen to, and there's lots of music I want to listen to that's not in any streaming catalogue. edit: note I say "upload," not syncing local files to my phone. I want a built-in streaming catalogue + cloud music locker that all my devices stream from, not something I have to manually transfer…
You can upload your own music, it's a bit janky sometimes but it works: https://support.spotify.com/us/article/local-files/
In Spotify's settings on your PC, you can configure directories to look for "local files". Then, you can make playlists of local files and they will sync to your other devices over your local WiFi network.
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#94sluggish UI aside, I really don't like Apple Music's TASTE in music. Spotify's playlists are reliably more niche. Apple is far more "GRAMMY/Top 40"-oriented and that's just not interesting to me. Also, Apple should have bought Rdio.
I really don't like Apple Music's TASTE in music. I'm with you there. Apple (and really all the streaming services) are constantly crowing about how many millions of songs they have. How about some metric for how many good songs they have? 80% of my wife's record collection is not available on Apple Music, so I'm left ripping her records in what used to be my spare time. The only reason we have Apple Music is for whe…
I recently bought https://jriver.com/ Jriver Media Center and it is a audiophile dream. I am going back to ripping my old CDs and having my own local library.
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#95I am all in on Apple and only a few dollars away from the Apple One bundle being worth it for me but I just don't like Apple Music. The UI is just too difficult to use and it feels slower than it should be, definitely slower than Spotify. While I have no love for Spotify's podcast ventures and dislike them trying to push me to listen to podcasts on their platform, I do love it for music and it "Just Works". Also I ca…
Spotify is a nonstarter for me because I can't upload my own music. I don't want to be beholden to whatever they decide I can listen to, and there's lots of music I want to listen to that's not in any streaming catalogue. edit: note I say "upload," not syncing local files to my phone. I want a built-in streaming catalogue + cloud music locker that all my devices stream from, not something I have to manually transfer…
You can import local files to Spotify [0] and if you download the playlist for offline use on your mobile device, they'll be synced over from your desktop [1].
[0] https://support.spotify.com/us/article/local-files/
[1] https://community.spotify.com/t5/iOS-iPhone-iPad/Syncing-Loc...
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#96I recently switched to iPhone from Pixel. The overall UI touch responsiveness and battery life is an upgrade but the OS features are neither upgrade or downgrade. I also got Apple Music trial for 6 months while having a YT subscription. Even though the app seems just fine and nice looking but why would anyone pay for it vs. YouTube Music? With YouTube you get a larger selection of songs (including all user uploaded s…
Not sure about Apple Music but I simply don’t use YouTube Music because it’s actually missing a LOT of stuff for me. Off the top of my head, some Beatles remasters and obscure synth artists
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#97Correct me if I'm wrong: the first and second ones in market share aren't the most interesting part. What's insightful is that Amazon is at third. Spotify is a pure player in the space and with it's years of growth it makes sense to be #1. Apple, while not a pure player as Spotify, has a good share of the mobile devices market and smartwatch, and that and music go hand in hand. Amazon? To Amazon music is just another…
Amazon Music is a throw-in on Prime, so technically I "have" it as a subscriber to Prime, but I've literally never used it.
Of all of the players in this space, it's not clear to me that Amazon's "subscriber share" reflects anything at all considering that it's not something you subscribe to on its own and not generally considered a major benefit of the subscription it's included in. Would be interesting to see what the actual usage statistics look like.
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#98I recently switched to iPhone from Pixel. The overall UI touch responsiveness and battery life is an upgrade but the OS features are neither upgrade or downgrade. I also got Apple Music trial for 6 months while having a YT subscription. Even though the app seems just fine and nice looking but why would anyone pay for it vs. YouTube Music? With YouTube you get a larger selection of songs (including all user uploaded s…
> So what exactly is the rationale to pay for Apple Music?
Googles absolute failure to provide family plans for people using Google-apps/Gsuite as their family domain and accounts. You have to buy individual subscriptions to everyone.
It’s literally not an even an option.
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#99I pulled the trigger on an Apple Music subscription this year because it pays artists better. Spotify still considers a penny per stream "entitled" according to an exec giving one of the most absolutely tone-deaf AND nonsensical justifications for their choices ("we solved piracy by more or less adopting piracy's business model and legitimizing it!") [0] Apple stepped up to that level. [1] Revenue streams from record…
I used to use Tidal for the same reason, but the ongoing MQA debacle pushed me over to Music. I have to say that I preferred Tidal's recommendations.
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#100I’m an indie artist and here’s the avg split on my plays per week: Spotify: 25,000 Apple Music: 600 … Not trying to make a statement— just sharing cause it’s interesting!
Since the big topic of discussion on HN has been how much artist make from those streams, can you give us a ballpark figure of how much you get from each service?