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Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Post by justsomehnguy »

Offtopic/Ask HN:

I tried to use Vaultwarden implementation with one caveat: I don't need to use any plug-ins - my everyday passwords are at my fingertips anyway, for anything else I'm fine with logging in and copy-pasting the login and password.

And here comes the thing which makes VW (and a couple of other password managers I tried in the last couple of years) usage abysmal: the web-interface just sucks.

First of all - the process of adding a new login-password info requires too many clicks to set something more than just a login, password, (web-site) address. You want to add some tag? Click 'add', click 'type', click to the value field, type in. Want more than one tag? Repeat for each one. Okay, that would be tolerable if this was just once in a while task, but here comes the next one:

Second and more important - awful search. VW just doesn't have the search functionality. It just loads ALL your accounts and filters them in the UI.. and sometimes even fails to do that. Like I see '$something' in the account description, type it in the 'search' field.. and have an empty result.

For me personally the lack of useful search (including server-side search) makes the thing unusable.

Are my requirements (sane web-gui, working search, usable without browser/apps addons) unreasonable?

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

#92

Post by 19870213 »

vgalin wrote: post #37

> The most trusted open source password manager for business I expected a blog article with actual feedbacks from companies and data, but ended up on bitwarden.com main page. Baseless claims can be quite common when it comes to marketing, but I'm genuinely curious: which password manager is used in your workplace, if any? I've personally never seen in my (for now short) career anything else than Keepass.

PasswordState for us (and we're predominantly a Java/PHP/Linux shop).

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

#93

Post by chiefalchemist »

aniforprez wrote: post #41
vgalin wrote: post #37

> The most trusted open source password manager for business I expected a blog article with actual feedbacks from companies and data, but ended up on bitwarden.com main page. Baseless claims can be quite common when it comes to marketing, but I'm genuinely curious: which password manager is used in your workplace, if any? I've personally never seen in my (for now short) career anything else than Keepass.

Workplace uses 1Password. I've been using it personally for years and I love it. Completely worth the subscription cost though it has its quirks I like Bitwarden and the work they do and I'm sure they're trustworthy seeing as they've been audited and such but the android app and some of the UI is clunky to say the least. I tried switching from LastPass (which is awful) and ended up going to 1Password

I use BW at home and 1PW at work - both via browser extension. I cringe and/or swear at 1PW far more often than BW.

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

#94

Post by teekert »

jptech wrote: post #83
teekert wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was my reason to go away from KeePass(XC) with NextCloud for sync. I would inevitably run into a sync issues (also due to the need for NextCloud to be always up of course, also self-hosted) and I never found a nice way to integrate KeePassXC into android or iOS, Bitwarden just works, on any OS (allthough what I find annoying is that you have to sync the vault before you get new stuff by going into the app and sy…

> I would inevitably run into a sync issues Could it be that you weren't using it correctly? KeePass database files aren't supposed to remain open (for security of course) and it has quite a number of options to automatically close it after certain amount of time or when the window isn't focus, computer is locked, etc. This would trigger a sync with the (NC) server and assuming that all your clients follow the same u…

My remarks are from the self hosting perspective. To ensure an up-to-date KeePassXC db across all my devices I needed Nextcloud to always be reachable. KeePassXC was not smart about sync, so add one pw on a device before syncing, add one on another and you have two divergent databases that you have to manual reconcile. Bitwarden does not have this issue, and it also keeps itself synced, even if I only set up the add-on in the browser (with KeePassXC you always need the full program installed). With KeePass(XC) it's just an extra layer you need to be aware of, decoupling sync from the db.

For me BW has always just worked, meanwhile I have several KeePassXC dbs with a date in their name because of conflicts. Which arguably is because of NextCloud issues, which are my own "fault" (issues include, on work PC file sync services are not allowed, on Server somehow NC disconnects after every container update, since it is "headless" I often notice this very late, the shitty state of NC client packaging on Ubuntu will let you install very old clients that may stop syncing, you need to be aware of this... etc). Perhaps KeePass(XC) just works if you outsource syncing, but then still, it is easier to have sync conflicts than with BW.

And then there is the ability to share PWs with relatives with a BW account on the same server, KeePass does not have this concept as far as I am aware.

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Post by BrandoElFollito »

I use Biwarden extensively, in self-hosted mode (vaultwarden), for a few years now.

It is truly excellent, especially the fact that you can "move" an entry to an organization, where everyone has the same ownership and rights (and not merely "share" it). Plus a ton of wonderful things.

There are two minor points I am missing:

- the ability to control someone's passwords. Typical usage: the 24/7/365 support for my parents, where I would like to be able to access their passwords (they also would like that, obviously). There would be a simple solution: the ability to force someone to file entries only in an organization. But it is not possible (and new entries will go to the personal vault by default).

- the ability to discard the Android pop-up, sometimes it completely blocks the ability to manually fill in something. An "escape" kind of gesture.

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Post by flawi »

EPmoL wrote: post #90

There’s a critical feature missing from Bitwarden that is keeping my on 1Password: - history It’s saved me enough times that I can’t move to a manager that doesn’t record history.

Wait, you mean password history? As in being able to see the old password once you generate a new one or otherwise update it? Because Bitwarden definitely has that.

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Post by j_crick »

EPmoL wrote: post #90

There’s a critical feature missing from Bitwarden that is keeping my on 1Password: - history It’s saved me enough times that I can’t move to a manager that doesn’t record history.

Seems like they have some version of it implemented:

> Q: I need an old password! Can I view the history of a password that I changed in Bitwarden?

> A: Yes! You can view the last 5 passwords for any Login Item. Open the item in question and select the “1” next to Password History near the bottom of the window.

https://bitwarden.com/help/article/product-faqs/

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Post by technothrasher »

jodator wrote: post #15
skrebbel wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just switched to it from LastPass which, well, has even worse UX in my opinion. It's an extremely low bar to clear and I agree Bitwarden is quirky too, but for me it's still firmly been an upgrade. The only thing I miss is an "add to bitwarden?" dialog when I sign up somewhere. Their docs say it exists but I've never managed to get it to appear :-)

Totally agree. LastPass has worse UX IMO. With bitwarden I never missed the "add to bitwarden" dialog. As a paying user. I love that they offer Android app. It has its moments like the integration with keyboard does not always work, but I can use it from the shot it's drawer. If you generate passwords (or passphrases!) they are stores 8n history, so there's always a backup :)

> It has its moments like the integration with keyboard does not always work

I've found keyboard integration really hit or miss on Android. On iOS it does quite a bit better.

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Post by Jamieee »

EPmoL wrote: post #90

There’s a critical feature missing from Bitwarden that is keeping my on 1Password: - history It’s saved me enough times that I can’t move to a manager that doesn’t record history.

Password history is a feature on Bitwarden. In the browser extension, at the bottom of the entry, you'll have something like:

Updated: 18 May 2020, 16:22:44 Password updated: 18 May 2020, 16:22:44 Password history: 1

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