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Re: Dark Web – Justice League

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Post by _0ffh »

JoelMcCracken wrote: post #4

These kinds of alternative justice systems always seem fascinating to me. I feel like a sociological study on "alternative forms of justice" could be very fruitful.

The (consequentialist-)anarchist economist David Friedman (son of Milton) wrote a book about this very topic!

I hope you'll find it as interesting as I did!

Book: http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Legal%20Systems/LegalSystemsCo...

Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOB2qxRO5vQ

[Ed. Seems I'm late, but I'll leave the comment up for the video link.]

Re: Dark Web – Justice League

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Post by quickthrower2 »

Animats wrote: post #81
quickthrower2 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do I send $1m in cash to Russia to pay the ransom? Or $1000 for that matter?

Bitcoin, of course. Classically, kidnappers and extortionists were caught when the money passed. It was hard to find an untraceable way to do that. But with modern cryptocurrency technology, criminals have solved that problem.

Thats my point :-). Cash is too cumbersome and susceptible to MITM be that criminal, government or sunk boat.

Re: Dark Web – Justice League

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Post by klodolph »

gime_tree_fiddy wrote: post #90
flatiron wrote: post #67

I live in NJ where weed is legal but you can't buy it (legally) so we are sort of in a weird spot. anyway, it makes me really not care about ordering weed on the dark web from CA. if the feds catch it, its an ounce of weed to a residence, they don't care and im not gonna go in front of some federal judge on federal drug crimes. if CA or NJ catch it, its legal there, who cares. but the site I use uses an escrow system…

I thought NJ legalized to the level of CA, where you can there are dispensaries and stuff, no?

It takes time from legalization to when businesses appear. Most states, it seems, at least a couple years.

Re: Dark Web – Justice League

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Post by t0suj4 »

matsemann wrote: post #72
ThrustVectoring wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a bit more specific than just being "faster" and "more efficient". There's two main advantages: First, waiver of class-action rights. This is a big deal because there's a cottage industry of enterprising lawyers who do find a couple main plaintiffs, generate a suit on behalf of a large class against a deep-pocketed defendant, and settle for something around a dollar per class member plus millions in legal fees.…

True reason is of course that the arbitration courts side with those paying the bills. Otherwise they would have few repeat customers.

If you can buy a judgement wouldn't people just refuse to be judged by such courts?

The arbiter would risk losing all their customers.

Re: Dark Web – Justice League

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Post by hypertele-Xii »

tshaddox wrote: post #59
paxys wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It ceases to be anarchism the moment it becomes involuntary. Otherwise it's just another system of authority.

Isn’t any system of governance in a given region (geographic, or virtual) involuntary? Unless you just mean “you can leave if you don’t like it,” but that’s true for all systems of governance.

> “you can leave if you don’t like it,” but that’s true for all systems of governance.

Is it? Can you just leave North Korea if you please?

Re: Dark Web – Justice League

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Post by papito »

justicezyx wrote: post #47
papito wrote: post #27

This just shows that people naturally gravitate toward a system of social harmony and the rule of law, as it lets you reasonably adjust your behavior, as the expectations are formalized, and everyone else is assumed to be abiding by them. The irony is that real world is increasingly moving away from that, toward the "everyone for themselves, nothing matters" chaos.

Words are thoughts. Thoughts are mental processes. Be careful with treating similarity in appearance with equivalence in substance. > social harmony and the rule of law The association between the story and social harmony seems plausible, but actually superficial. Social harmony would be that people involuntarily work together without an authority, and reached mutual agreement on their dispute. To me, it is a sign of…

Well, obviously, this is almost a metaphor, as it's a stretch to literally apply the term Rule of Law to something as sketchy as the dark web. Also, note that I did not use something like "Law and Order", as that can have a pretty unpleasant meaning.

Re: Dark Web – Justice League

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Post by jokethrowaway »

flatiron wrote: post #67

I live in NJ where weed is legal but you can't buy it (legally) so we are sort of in a weird spot. anyway, it makes me really not care about ordering weed on the dark web from CA. if the feds catch it, its an ounce of weed to a residence, they don't care and im not gonna go in front of some federal judge on federal drug crimes. if CA or NJ catch it, its legal there, who cares. but the site I use uses an escrow system…

I used that and got my money back when a shipping didn't arrive.

Also the quality and honesty of the sellers on the quantity they're selling you is great. It's beautiful to see how the market and a reputation system can work wonders, even among strangers with anonymised identities.

The street experience equivalent is terrible. A friend of mine (who self medicated in one of the western totalitarian regimes who prohibit weed) got a bag of tea, tissues smelling like weed, he got a knife pulled on him, he got scammed in an elaborate plot which involved him keeping a bag of flour (supposedly coke) while the dealer supposedly went to get his weed for a 50, he had homeless dragging him to a gang of criminals under the pretence of buying weed. Eventually he found someone reliable, a middle aged father with a stable but low paying job and a family - but it's a miracle he's still alive.

Re: Dark Web – Justice League

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Post by dylan604 »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #76
flatiron wrote: post #67

I live in NJ where weed is legal but you can't buy it (legally) so we are sort of in a weird spot. anyway, it makes me really not care about ordering weed on the dark web from CA. if the feds catch it, its an ounce of weed to a residence, they don't care and im not gonna go in front of some federal judge on federal drug crimes. if CA or NJ catch it, its legal there, who cares. but the site I use uses an escrow system…

> I live in NJ where weed is legal but you can't buy it (legally) so we are sort of in a weird spot. Isn't there a service in Maine where you can pay psychics to find your lost weed and bring it back to you? https://www.incredibles.me/your-first-order-what-you-need-to... > If you have LOST your weed, please feel free to reach out to us! Your word is good enough for us. If you say you LOST IT, we will FIND IT, GUARANT…

I love the creativity. Not sure how appreciative an old crusty judge would feel though
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