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Twitter Permanently Suspends Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Account

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Re: Twitter Permanently Suspends Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Account

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Post by spcebar »

mark_l_watson wrote: post #54

No matter what their politics are, I would hope that all reasonable people can condemn cancel culture, regardless of the political alignment of the person being cancelled. I get a lot of value from Twitter because I follow a few awesomely interesting people, but I could probably get the same effect by bookmarking their blogs. People should have access to all information, and filter for themselves what is trash. I don…

If you define cancel culture as angry k pop fans attacking people they don't like, then yes it is probably bad. If you define it as a service banning effective private propoganda machines spewing baseless conspiracy theories to people who are seemingly unable or unwilling to acknowledge reality, then I'm definitely for it. I don't have a lot of faith in people to discern reality from fantasy anymore. If Twitter can stop people acting in bad faith from manipulating people, with real world consequences, then I think that's their obligation, regardless of political alignment. In this case the ban is because of spreading COVID vaccine misinformation. Countless lives could have been saved if this nonsense had never been given a platform.

Re: Twitter Permanently Suspends Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Account

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Post by mistermann »

forty wrote: post #59
psyc wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter is not a conscious being, and cannot experience the subjective feeling of being oppressed. I support maximal liberty for humans, and appropriate protection of those humans from corporations as well as the government. Corporations may be collections of people, but they're a lot more than that - which makes them not human - and in any case they are not loci of experience.

Some users might like a platform where saying obviously false things and potentially dangerous things is not allowed and I don't know why Twitter should not be allowed to provide them with this.

They have a fair amount of work to do to achieve that goal.

Re: Twitter Permanently Suspends Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Account

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Post by paragisatool »

darkstar999 wrote: post #87
loourr wrote: post #22

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That's not what she said. From the article: Twitter suspended Ms. Greene’s account after she tweeted on Saturday, falsely, about “extremely high amounts of Covid vaccine deaths.”

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Re: Twitter Permanently Suspends Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Account

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Post by krapp »

ekianjo wrote: post #71
krapp wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you're saying no elected official should be bound by any laws, contracts or the terms of service of any organization, since doing so could be interpreted as "censorship?" That if anyone else had said what Marjorie Taylor Greene had said, they would be subject to action by Twitter under its own stated policies, but the rules just shouldn't apply to her?

> they would be subject to action by Twitter under its own stated policies When people say "hang the rich" on Twitter do you see them getting banned? Twitter specifically says they do not accept appeal to violence, but in reality they only censor the language they don't agree with.

>When people say "hang the rich" on Twitter do you see them getting banned?

If you believe these people constitute a direct threat to the safety of the rich, why don't you report them?

Re: Twitter Permanently Suspends Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Account

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Post by mint2 »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #8
JohnTHaller wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most private sector businesses don't want to be in the business of helping spread deadly lies, though. And they're not required to be.

Twitter did not even say she lied, they just said that they (Twitter) considered it “misleading.” Not false, “misleading.”

Most deception is build on half truth and partial truths and or even selective truths. Outright lies tend to be less believable

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Post by anigbrowl »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #5
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #2

I don’t care what she said, it is not the job of private businesses to censor elected officials. And yes, I know they can but that does not mean they should .

Also Twitter has now demonstrated they are completely ignorant to the Streisand Effect. This won’t change minds. This will only harden viewpoints and invite political and regulatory scrutiny.

Absurd. Of all platforms, Twitter is best positioned to assess how big the Streisand effect really is and measure whether the howls of outrage from her supporters are really louder than the low-level rumble of discontent from her opponents.

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Post by VictorPath »

mark_l_watson wrote: post #54

No matter what their politics are, I would hope that all reasonable people can condemn cancel culture, regardless of the political alignment of the person being cancelled. I get a lot of value from Twitter because I follow a few awesomely interesting people, but I could probably get the same effect by bookmarking their blogs. People should have access to all information, and filter for themselves what is trash. I don…

From the 1940s on there was a Fairness Doctrine for companies with broadcast licenses. The Republicans killed this off in the 1980s, saying private business should be able to do what they want. Hoisted by their own petard.

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Post by MattPalmer1086 »

rosmax_1337 wrote: post #28
MattPalmer1086 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not censoring for a private company to refuse service to someone. I don't agree with government compelling speech for a private company either.

Would you hold that opinion if someone was declined access to a platform because of their skin color?

No. I do agree that discrimination based on protected characteristics should not be allowed.

There's obviously a conversation to be had on what should be protected.

Re: Twitter Permanently Suspends Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Account

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Post by psyc »

hairofadog wrote: post #89
psyc wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is Twitter the speaker when MTG tweets, but Verizon is not the speaker when I call my mom?

Your conversation with your mom is private communication, while your tweets are broadcast communications.

You've stated a fact. Why does this fact make Twitter the speaker whose free speech rights take precedence?

Re: Twitter Permanently Suspends Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Account

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Post by angelzen »

nojito wrote: post #26
no-dr-onboard wrote: post #3

I’m not sure what she said, but given the amount of reversals and “facts-later-questioned” concerning this virus, I’d be interested to see if she ever would have it reinstated if she were right about the key points concerning her ban.

She made repetitive tweets that Omicron proves that vaccines don't work.

Since you are not posting your sources, it's hard to tell what claims of Marjorie Taylor Greene you are referring to. I recently stumbled upon a site that reports on covid data from Denmark. The rate of Omicron infection in both vaccinated and unvaccinated populations >15yo is the same. This corroborates with a recent DHH post surfacing similar Denmark data. There is a distinct uncomfortable possibility that the vaccines targeting a 2 year old variant are, indeed, ineffective as a measure to limit the spread of Omicron. Unfortunately, I can't corroborate with US data because CDC is obstinate in not publishing covid data with a breakdown by date/age/vaccination status/virus variant.

Based in prior variant data, it is likely the vaccines do work to prevent severe omicron cases. Feel free to clarify what is it that the vaccines work for, and which of Marjorie Taylor Greene tweets fell afoul of that.

PS. This post is in no way an endorsement of Marjorie Taylor Greene political activities, of which I know very little other than her being a Republican Congresswoman.

https://covid19danmark.dk/#gennembrudsinfektioner

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29765351

https://world.hey.com/dhh/should-you-vaccinate-your-kids-169...

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