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Re: Marktext – Elegant Markdown Editor for Linux, macOS, Windows

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Post by nyanpasu64 »

mackrevinack wrote: post #73
nyanpasu64 wrote: post #56

Is it possible to turn off the custom title bar, and restore the system's native title bar, and add a real menu bar instead of a hamburger menu hiding options behind an extra click?

there's an option for that yes

Interesting that you called it an "option". It's not discoverable via the command palette. There's no Tools menu, the settings isn't in the Edit menu, and I couldn't find "settings" or "options" in the command palette. Turns out it's called "preferences", and it's only visible in the file menu or command palette when you type "preferences". I think they should add command palette aliases, so "preferences" can also be found by searching for settings or options. And maybe the menu entry should be moved to Edit.

Re: Marktext – Elegant Markdown Editor for Linux, macOS, Windows

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Post by franga2000 »

paleite wrote: post #57
msoloviev wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been working on one ( https://github.com/blackhole89/notekit ) for a while now (which, unlike the aforementioned, also is not built on Chrome/Electron). Unfortunately it seems to be pretty hard to get the word out, or at least I haven't found any better strategy than to pounce, as I am doing now, whenever I see a HN thread about markdown editors (which invariably wind up having some comment thread lamenting the…

I mean the following as feedback to help you find more users, not as critique; I understand where you’re coming from and this is just how I would personally approach it: What I immediately noticed looking at the README, is that the communication is centered around you and your values, rather than on the end-user: You mention why you created it, not what it enables the user to do. You use Linux-lingo, like “free (spee…

Regarding screenshots, just crop the window borders. That way no one platform feels like "the main one".

Re: Marktext – Elegant Markdown Editor for Linux, macOS, Windows

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Post by Dylan16807 »

charrondev wrote: post #39
smoldesu wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it's not every Electron app that chews up RAM like crazy Let's see, Discord uses 450mb of memory after being open for 3 hours, and Spotify has gone through 1.6gb after 8. If these people with infinite resources at their disposal can't do good resource management, I'm not sure who out there is "debunking" the fact that running a web browser as a wrapper for your application is (surprise surprise!) resource heavy.

450 doesn’t seem like a crazy amount to me for what discord is. You can be flipping through 10+ servers each with 10k+ users in it, hopping back and forth between real time voice chat, video chat/streaming, and chat with huge images/gifs in it. Too be honest I wouldn’t be surprised if gif rendering is one of the most memory intensive parts of the app. They have them everywhere and people paying for their premium subs…

> You can be flipping through 10+ servers each with 10k+ users in it, hopping back and forth between real time voice chat, video chat/streaming, and chat with huge images/gifs in it.

It will do it even without lots of users or voice or video.

And you're not really going to have more than five images on screen at once.

> they will store the full uncompressed version of that resource and display it in the chat

So don't do that.

Re: Marktext – Elegant Markdown Editor for Linux, macOS, Windows

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Post by Dylan16807 »

ivanche wrote: post #75
JulianMorrison wrote: post #15

Things I want in a markdown editor: Grammar check. Auto-capitalise start of sentence and known proper nouns. Auto fix obvious typos without bothering me. Grammatically smart spellcheck. Detect and flag accidental double space. Detect and flag duplicate words. Word count excluding headlines. It's nice when I use Google docs and it has that stuff. I wish I had it in markdown.

The author of marktext will for sure welcome your PRs for all these features! As stated in the README, "Of course, if you submit a PR directly, it will be greatly appreciated."

Don't do this. It's not a demand list, it's a comparison to a competing product. Do you want a PR that's just s/.*/docs.google.com/? That's what you're passive-aggressively asking for.

Re: Marktext – Elegant Markdown Editor for Linux, macOS, Windows

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Post by dtgriscom »

bool3max wrote: post #18

Just another one in an endless stream of bloatware Electron markdown text editors. Stop giving these projects recognition.

That's a really broad opinion you've got there.

At the moment, I have Mark Text running on my Mac, and it's using 0.0% of a CPU (I have over a dozen processes using more power, totaling about 5% of a CPU).

It's a reasonable choice not to use this (free) product because of disk usage (285MB, which is a lot, although I have 275GB free), memory usage (165MB, although it's compressed to about 65MB) or CPU usage (see above). But others may decide that this app provides great value for the resources used, and that's also a reasonable choice. There's no reason to shut down the discussion.

Re: Marktext – Elegant Markdown Editor for Linux, macOS, Windows

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Post by kcartlidge »

msoloviev wrote: post #82
paleite wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean the following as feedback to help you find more users, not as critique; I understand where you’re coming from and this is just how I would personally approach it: What I immediately noticed looking at the README, is that the communication is centered around you and your values, rather than on the end-user: You mention why you created it, not what it enables the user to do. You use Linux-lingo, like “free (spee…

Thanks for the feedback! I can certainly try to improve the structure of the README, though I'm not sure if I agree with some of your points about giving more priority to non-Linux users. The thing is, at least in my eyes, Gtk generally feels terrible on platforms where it is not native (I would in fact even avoid using it in a Qt-based Linux desktop setup, just as I avoid Qt-based applications as far as possible in…

You say:

- You don't want to give more priority to non-Linux users

- GTK feels terrible on those other platforms

- You don't believe those who care about licensing issues would use it

- You cannot build releases or installers for Mac

The first thing that comes to mind on reading your response is that the non-Linux users are a market you are not really interested in - and even if they were they are not a market you can effectively serve (installers, updates, issues).

You should consider formally abandoning official support for non-Linux, as in reality you don't currently have actual support for them anyway. Be honest, cut your losses, and choose your customers. Cross-platform is not a benefit if it is unsustainable.

Re: Marktext – Elegant Markdown Editor for Linux, macOS, Windows

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Post by msoloviev »

kcartlidge wrote: post #96
msoloviev wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the feedback! I can certainly try to improve the structure of the README, though I'm not sure if I agree with some of your points about giving more priority to non-Linux users. The thing is, at least in my eyes, Gtk generally feels terrible on platforms where it is not native (I would in fact even avoid using it in a Qt-based Linux desktop setup, just as I avoid Qt-based applications as far as possible in…

You say: - You don't want to give more priority to non-Linux users - GTK feels terrible on those other platforms - You don't believe those who care about licensing issues would use it - You cannot build releases or installers for Mac The first thing that comes to mind on reading your response is that the non-Linux users are a market you are not really interested in - and even if they were they are not a market you ca…

Well, it's not exactly unsustainable - the Github CI continues producing those builds without me having to do anything for it (it in fact didn't break even once in the past year, compared to several breakages on the "backwards-compatible" Ubuntu 18.04 deb which happened whenever Github changed something about the package bundle available to that image). If someone reports a bug on Windows, I will look into it, and/or spend some time walking them through a workaround (since I do in fact have access to Windows setups). As I see it, in the most natural sense of support, I do have support for Windows, even though it is what I guess you would call Tier 2 support.

To nitpick a little, I also didn't say I don't think that those who care about licensing issues would use [the Windows build]; rather, I think that those who don't care about licensing issues and are on Windows would not use it, because there is a Windows-only product that is closed-source which I am unlikely to be able to compete with on that ground.

I'm not really advertising Mac support beyond having some files merged from people who did get it to work (https://github.com/blackhole89/notekit/blob/master/screensho...).

Re: Marktext – Elegant Markdown Editor for Linux, macOS, Windows

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Post by msoloviev »

vladvasiliu wrote: post #76
msoloviev wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been working on one ( https://github.com/blackhole89/notekit ) for a while now (which, unlike the aforementioned, also is not built on Chrome/Electron). Unfortunately it seems to be pretty hard to get the word out, or at least I haven't found any better strategy than to pounce, as I am doing now, whenever I see a HN thread about markdown editors (which invariably wind up having some comment thread lamenting the…

This looks interesting, and is actually the first of these kinds editors that I'll be trying in a very long time. I got kind of jaded with the Electron experience and always go back to nvim. Of course, the WYSIWYG experience isn't as nice in nvim, but that's not that high of a priority for me. In regard to getting the word out, it depends on the kind of person you want to reach. If you really want to reach a "general…

Yeah, the way Windows builds are made available at the moment is honestly pretty bad, and I should improve on that. There is the problem that you need to be logged in to download that particular type of CI artifact, and more generally that the archive is somewhat bloated because the build scripts have no notion of what parts of Gtk actually need to be bundled (and so they wind up including an excess of random icons and what-not).

I don't know if I want to reach what you would call the "general public" (at least not until the program is quite a bit more polished than it is now), but I'd certainly want to reach typical Linux-using HN posters who are interested in Markdown notetaking, and the circumstance that this subthread played out as it did implies I haven't yet done so.

Re: Marktext – Elegant Markdown Editor for Linux, macOS, Windows

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Post by ipsum2 »

timeon wrote: post #79
ipsum2 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just because you don't find it useful, doesn't mean others won't either. I use Marktext on a daily basis and think its a great tool, after comparing it to what's available in OSS. I haven't had any Electron-related issues with it.

> I haven't had any Electron-related issues with it. Maybe you just do not consider wasting energy as an issue?

The amount of energy used by Electron is minuscule compared to bitcoin mining, electric heating, driving cars, food production, or literally any other activity humans do that I can't tell if you're trolling.
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