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Re: /tap – Powerful and customizable note-taking system

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I follow an unwritten rule that I will always congratulate anyone on shipping anything. Shipping anything is hard and deserves praise, so congratulations! Unfortunately I'm also realizing that I got to a point in life where I just roll my eyes when I see yet another note-taking, or to-do app, or any other spin on the same trivial problem that we solved 1000 years ago and now are just beating a dead horse, almost like…

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Re: /tap – Powerful and customizable note-taking system

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note taking is solved, find me an app that solves note organizing and note retrieval and I will pay for that

I wonder sometimes if note organizing isn’t a lost cause. If we could just solve note retrieval, who cares about organizing? I want to make a note when I find out something useful, and I want to retrieve that note when I need the information (or when I find out more, so I can amend the note). Organization seems orthogonal to that desire.

Solving retrieval was Evernote's original idea, and then they became enterprise spaghetti instead.

Re: /tap – Powerful and customizable note-taking system

#93

I follow an unwritten rule that I will always congratulate anyone on shipping anything. Shipping anything is hard and deserves praise, so congratulations! Unfortunately I'm also realizing that I got to a point in life where I just roll my eyes when I see yet another note-taking, or to-do app, or any other spin on the same trivial problem that we solved 1000 years ago and now are just beating a dead horse, almost like…

So, having also spent LOADS of time and energy in this space, I basically agree, but I feel like there is a "solution" out there that requires a slightly different "level of abstraction." Let's take two "extremes" that I know, At one end ( pretty much always is Emacs) and at the other, perhaps something like Obsidian or Zim-Wiki.

I think the missing link here is "programmability" or "extensibility." Feels like there should be something as extensible as Emacs by the individual user that could also be as initially user friendly as an Obsidian or Zim-Wiki -- but why those might not be good enough is that there's really no "extensibility built-in," which I think is distinguishable from mere "tons of plugins?"

Re: /tap – Powerful and customizable note-taking system

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post #43

I follow an unwritten rule that I will always congratulate anyone on shipping anything. Shipping anything is hard and deserves praise, so congratulations! Unfortunately I'm also realizing that I got to a point in life where I just roll my eyes when I see yet another note-taking, or to-do app, or any other spin on the same trivial problem that we solved 1000 years ago and now are just beating a dead horse, almost like…

The note taking space is interesting to me. You say the problem is solved, and yet, every time I see a new app in this space, I perk up because I hope that maybe this is the one that will resonate/work for me. Note taking is a deeply personal process. Physical notebooks as a medium are infinitely flexible but apps are not. This means that 100 different people writing notes on paper might be doing so in 100 different…

See, the thing is-- MANY times in the past I've "perked up," nearly 100% that I'll switch from the thing I started with -- and end up ALWAYS going back, forgetting how much I have to put in.

This is why I think some cynicism here might be healthy; I think software has a LOT of wasted repeated effort by developers; mostly due to a little too much "let me make a product" mentality and not enough "free/open source" mentality*

and again before the pitchforks come out, I'm emphatically not saying FOSS is always superior, but I do think this balance is presently off.

Re: /tap – Powerful and customizable note-taking system

#95
post #45

Looks interesting. However, no more subscriptions. I only use FOSS software or software I can buy for money.

Provided the SMS features are core to the system (and it looks like they are), then this is more of a service than a software product, in my opinion. It's surprisingly expensive to send or receive a text message - about a cent[1]. A light user would cost them about $0.50/month and a heavy user would cost them several dollars. I don't know how you could provide that without a subscription. 1. https://www.twilio.com/sm…

I'm a big fan of when there's a self-hosted option, then you could get around that need and keep your own data too

Re: /tap – Powerful and customizable note-taking system

#96
post #45

Looks interesting. However, no more subscriptions. I only use FOSS software or software I can buy for money.

Provided the SMS features are core to the system (and it looks like they are), then this is more of a service than a software product, in my opinion. It's surprisingly expensive to send or receive a text message - about a cent[1]. A light user would cost them about $0.50/month and a heavy user would cost them several dollars. I don't know how you could provide that without a subscription. 1. https://www.twilio.com/sm…

What piqued my interest was the little markup language they have for folders, events, tags, etc. I'm loathe to send anything over SMS, let alone anything private like a note of any kind. Those messages are sent in clear text and archived by all major carriers for years on end for later analysis and government surveillance. Solid no on the SMS features, seems kind of gimmicky anyway.

Re: /tap – Powerful and customizable note-taking system

#97

Looks interesting. However, no more subscriptions. I only use FOSS software or software I can buy for money.

I sympathize with this. But as an open source author, I encourage folks to at least occasionally sponsor some of the FOSS packages they heavily rely on. I love open source, but I also pay for apps and services that provide me with more value than what they cost. I’m not sure this provides me with that value, but perhaps to some it does. Regardless, if software boosts your productivity, free or not, it’s worth at leas…

I agree, I'm happy to support commercial software that allows me to buy a single release for a one time payment.

Re: /tap – Powerful and customizable note-taking system

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post #58

You might be already be aware of this but you might want to take into account the fact that many countries do not use SMS at all, first because it's non-free/expensive and secondly because people have just grown used to not even realize it's an option. Here in South America it's ALL Whatssapp, I don't think I've ever sent an SMS in 10 years.

The same thing is unfortunately happening in the US. I would assume that iphone to iphone communication over imessage also does not go through traditional sms.

I would love to introduce you to every one of the group sms monstrosities that arise every time my children join a new activity. Why do people insist on doing this?

Re: /tap – Powerful and customizable note-taking system

#99

I follow an unwritten rule that I will always congratulate anyone on shipping anything. Shipping anything is hard and deserves praise, so congratulations! Unfortunately I'm also realizing that I got to a point in life where I just roll my eyes when I see yet another note-taking, or to-do app, or any other spin on the same trivial problem that we solved 1000 years ago and now are just beating a dead horse, almost like…

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post #99

I follow an unwritten rule that I will always congratulate anyone on shipping anything. Shipping anything is hard and deserves praise, so congratulations! Unfortunately I'm also realizing that I got to a point in life where I just roll my eyes when I see yet another note-taking, or to-do app, or any other spin on the same trivial problem that we solved 1000 years ago and now are just beating a dead horse, almost like…

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