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Microsoft Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities

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Re: Microsoft Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities

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Post by fock »

kevincox wrote: post #78
fock wrote: post #73

The IP adress leak is also very common in a lot of "flashy" opensource projects trying to "solve" communications. Because apparently everyone wants his computer to visit a url to parse some data, so that one can decide whether the link is safe to click or not... A private discourse forum (actually any forum software, sometimes spam bots post gifs for usercounting!) does this to great effect with media too - it just a…

In most cases "leaking your IP" isn't considered a problem. I leak my IP to hundreds of websites a day. Of course there are concerns, especially on mobile where you may be able to do some location tracking. Really the biggest place where IP leaking is a problem is gaming communities where people like to hammer IP addresses yo DoS people.

Well, you can basically do user-tracking on people viewing a specific internal chatroom that way. Which is definitely different to more or less consciously getting abused in the public net every minute.

Also funny: if people bookmark your website in iOS safari and you don't have a favicon, safari will regularly visit your page :). Found out that my father had bookmarked my empty blog that way, because suddenly an IP from his workplace showed up in the log... Yes, in the face of the other abuse this is minor, but I think it illustrates the total disregard for privacy nicely.

Re: Microsoft Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities

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Post by hoseja »

pydry wrote: post #17

In 2020 a rash of anti-zoom propaganda that I'm almost certain was driven by Microsoft led to a company-wide prohibition on using anything other than Teams "for security reasons" where i worked. This was, I am almost certain, inspired by Microsoft corporate sales getting their hooks into management. This was largely because of news stories like "end to end encryption doesnt really work as advertised" and "if you leav…

Airtight hatchway indeed.

Re: Microsoft Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities

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Post by thrower123 »

emerongi wrote: post #12
baq wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

great way to not have any software released ever

Somehow we still have medicine (they do a lot of testing before they release anything!) and doctors (they have insurance!). It would increase the barrier to releasing software massively (possibly killing the startup scene altogether), but it doesn't mean software development would end.

Softeare companies generally take out large (and increasingly expensive) liability insurance policies for exactly this reason.

Re: Microsoft Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities

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Post by rob74 »

pydry wrote: post #17

In 2020 a rash of anti-zoom propaganda that I'm almost certain was driven by Microsoft led to a company-wide prohibition on using anything other than Teams "for security reasons" where i worked. This was, I am almost certain, inspired by Microsoft corporate sales getting their hooks into management. This was largely because of news stories like "end to end encryption doesnt really work as advertised" and "if you leav…

Honestly I fail to understand why Zoom seems to have so many fans. I find the UI confusing, on my Linux machine having a call with video will lead to the CPU cooler going into overdrive, I often have to leave and re-enter calls because audio output isn't working, etc. etc.

Re: Microsoft Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities

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Post by pwarner »

Philip-J-Fry wrote: post #69
IiydAbITMvJkqKf wrote: post #34

MS Teams is the worst software I've ever used. This is not hyperbole. A room full of monkeys on a typewriter would never create something as bad as teams.

One day they just completely fucked the ability to paste code. It worked flawlessly before and then suddenly it removes indenting, bugs out and doesn't let you exit the preformatted code block. It's so bugged, it's like they didn't even test it. They couldn't have, one day it literally worked fine and the next it was unusable and could be replicated every single time. And why there isn't the ability to just delete th…

These bugs and regressions are so bad that I'm convinced no one at MS actually uses Teams.

Re: Microsoft Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities

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Post by politelemon »

polote wrote: post #42
pydry wrote: post #17

In 2020 a rash of anti-zoom propaganda that I'm almost certain was driven by Microsoft led to a company-wide prohibition on using anything other than Teams "for security reasons" where i worked. This was, I am almost certain, inspired by Microsoft corporate sales getting their hooks into management. This was largely because of news stories like "end to end encryption doesnt really work as advertised" and "if you leav…

So you are blaming Zoom security issues coverage on Microsoft without any proof and the comment asking for evidence is flagged. What's going on HN ?

> What's going on HN ?

HN is an anti-MS echo chamber, so comments like this become popular quickly. It's been this way for a few years now.

Re: Microsoft Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities

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Post by mrweasel »

IiydAbITMvJkqKf wrote: post #34

MS Teams is the worst software I've ever used. This is not hyperbole. A room full of monkeys on a typewriter would never create something as bad as teams.

I must have used worse software, but not something that I can remember. The problem with Teams is that for all it’s flaws, I can pick an alternative. Clients expect Teams and are always surprised that we don’t really use it internally.

Video call on Teams is actually pretty good, but everything else just seems half-baked, thrown together without a plan. The GUI is non-intuitive, basic features are unstable, absent or hidden away. Work for a company that doesn’t use ActiveDirectory and Exchange… well now your in for at really bad time.

Re: Microsoft Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities

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Post by rightbyte »

Philip-J-Fry wrote: post #69
IiydAbITMvJkqKf wrote: post #34

MS Teams is the worst software I've ever used. This is not hyperbole. A room full of monkeys on a typewriter would never create something as bad as teams.

One day they just completely fucked the ability to paste code. It worked flawlessly before and then suddenly it removes indenting, bugs out and doesn't let you exit the preformatted code block. It's so bugged, it's like they didn't even test it. They couldn't have, one day it literally worked fine and the next it was unusable and could be replicated every single time. And why there isn't the ability to just delete th…

Oh ye a code snippet I sent in Teams made me wreck our deployment system.

Teams put a nobreak space or something in the code that looked like a ordinary space in the diff. I am still abit mad :)

Re: Microsoft Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities

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Post by aspaviento »

IiydAbITMvJkqKf wrote: post #34

MS Teams is the worst software I've ever used. This is not hyperbole. A room full of monkeys on a typewriter would never create something as bad as teams.

Linux version:

- some times the left arrow to move the cursor doesn't work

- some times images are displayed and others not

- can't have more than 4 people on screen in a video call

- the scroll is completely broken

- can't get out of the immersive mode without closing the process (the back arrow doesn't work)

And the list goes on and on...

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