Being a father of two and seeing how much money and decisions goes into buying baby stuff and thinking how struggling family might find it inaccessible it makes me cry to read “give all children in Finland, no matter what background they're from, an equal start in life.”
Other countries give welfare benefits in form of money but that can be spent on things like addictions, in this case giving the set of necessary care items is much better
Why Finnish babies sleep in cardboard boxes (2013)
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#92Doesn't CO2 accumulate in the box since there are no holes on the sides?
Disclaimer: this is just my general impression after googling around for how much CO2 buildup/concentration might be a factor/cause of SIDS after becoming a parent. It's by no means any kind of reputable research, just the googling of a dad. The relative differences in weight/density between CO2, nitrogen, and oxygen just aren't big enough to matter much compared to the other forces that mix room air: convection, cur…
It could be a problem in the stroller. Some parents cover the stroller with a blanket to shield the child from direct sun light or wind. That is not a good idea, but don’t think many kids die from it to be honest. And I have left all our kids sleeping in the stroller with a rain cover without any issues.
By the way, letting children sleep outside in the stroller is great. They sleep so much better outside. Especially if it’s cold outside, just put the child in a sleeping bag and put on a hat and they will sleep like a rock. Just saying since I have the impression this is a very Scandinavian thing?
Re: Why Finnish babies sleep in cardboard boxes (2013)
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't get what your comment is trying to say. If someone doesn't want to take the box they take the cash. If they take the box and immediately throw it into trash that is on them. Everyone still gets equal start.
Equal start...when you disregard all the pre-existing advantages and disadvantages that people have accumulated generationally. "Equal start" apparently means "equal bare minimum" not "everyone starting from the same place."
How else do you think the government should handle this? If everyone gets the same stuff from them how is that anything else than equal start?
I get a feeling you are some schizo socialist who thinks equal start should mean that no one owns anything and everyone has only what government gives them or something else equally retarded.
Re: Why Finnish babies sleep in cardboard boxes (2013)
#94Here in the US we had a special high strength box that allowed our child to sleep between us when warranted, it was strong enough to keep us from rolling over accidents.
Re: Why Finnish babies sleep in cardboard boxes (2013)
#95Scotland also has a very similar baby box, introduced a few years ago due to the success of the Finnish one. https://www.mygov.scot/baby-box
Content of the box: https://www.parentclub.scot/baby-box
Study on impact of the box: https://www.gov.scot/publications/baby-box-evaluation/pages/...
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#96I’m perpetually amazed how well Finland is ran. It’s just a country with its shit frozen together.
It’s a particular comparison point for me, as it has a similar (vaguely) recent history to Poland, having regained its independence in 1918, and living in Russia’s shadow most of that time. The difficult, exploitative years under the Russian thumb are usually blamed for most of the mess in Poland right now. Clearly there is another way.
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#97I’m perpetually amazed how well Finland is ran. It’s just a country with its shit frozen together. It’s a particular comparison point for me, as it has a similar (vaguely) recent history to Poland, having regained its independence in 1918, and living in Russia’s shadow most of that time. The difficult, exploitative years under the Russian thumb are usually blamed for most of the mess in Poland right now. Clearly ther…
At least four factors differentiate the two:
1. Finland had only one scary and ravenous empire near its border. Poland had two: Russia and Germany/Prussia, or even three, if you count the Austro-Hungarians.
2. Finland is much easier to defend.
3. Finland was a free, market-based country since WWII, whereas Poland had to implement the insane communist policies. So, essentially Finland had a 45-year head start over Poland in building free society and economy.
4. Finland is much less populous. It's much easier to bring wealth via industrialization to a country of 5 millions than to country of 38 millions.
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#98I’m perpetually amazed how well Finland is ran. It’s just a country with its shit frozen together. It’s a particular comparison point for me, as it has a similar (vaguely) recent history to Poland, having regained its independence in 1918, and living in Russia’s shadow most of that time. The difficult, exploitative years under the Russian thumb are usually blamed for most of the mess in Poland right now. Clearly ther…
>"It’s a particular comparison point for me, as it has a similar (vaguely) recent history to Poland, having regained its independence in 1918, and living in Russia’s shadow most of that time. The difficult, exploitative years under the Russian thumb are usually blamed for most of the mess in Poland right now. Clearly there is another way."
Poland seems to be doing much better than many of the other countries which suffered behind the iron curtain. The comparable countries would seem to be the other former members of the Warsaw Pact: Albania, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, East Germany, Hungary, and Romania.
Re: Why Finnish babies sleep in cardboard boxes (2013)
#99Here in the US we had a special high strength box that allowed our child to sleep between us when warranted, it was strong enough to keep us from rolling over accidents.
Was this special box something you purchased or something you put together yourself?
Re: Why Finnish babies sleep in cardboard boxes (2013)
#100I’m perpetually amazed how well Finland is ran. It’s just a country with its shit frozen together. It’s a particular comparison point for me, as it has a similar (vaguely) recent history to Poland, having regained its independence in 1918, and living in Russia’s shadow most of that time. The difficult, exploitative years under the Russian thumb are usually blamed for most of the mess in Poland right now. Clearly ther…
At least four factors differentiate the two: 1. Finland had only one scary and ravenous empire near its border. Poland had two: Russia and Germany/Prussia, or even three, if you count the Austro-Hungarians. 2. Finland is much easier to defend. 3. Finland was a free, market-based country since WWII, whereas Poland had to implement the insane communist policies. So, essentially Finland had a 45-year head start over Pol…
Finland spent many years as part of Russian Empire, but only one year under communist rule. Poland spent 50 years under the communists. Two generations of brain washing and negative selection.