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Re: Kinesis Advantage 360

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FWIW I've been quite happy with the ZSA Moonlander https://www.zsa.io/moonlander

My only complaint with the moonlander is that you can't use the tenting at all if you have the thumb cluster tilted upwards.

I didn't know the thumb cluster lifted upwards. Just tried it on mine, wow is that uncomfortable.

Re: Kinesis Advantage 360

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're looking for something small but more ergonomic than a Plank, take a look at the Atreus (either as a DIY or in a kit from Keyboario[1]). I also had issues with the Plank but the slight angle of the keys on the Atreus has been extremely comfortable for me. [1] https://shop.keyboard.io/products/keyboardio-atreus

Love the small size, but the layout is too different from a "regular" keyboard for me to consider it; the switching costs between it and my laptop would be too high. Placement of shift, super (I use caps lock as super), and tab being the biggest issues.

I just bought two and use one on top of my laptop. Or perfect but it works out alright.

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FWIW I've been quite happy with the ZSA Moonlander https://www.zsa.io/moonlander

Yep, love my Moonlander - it has really helped with my wrist issues. The only trouble I have is when I have to switch to a standard keyboard (e.g., on a laptop).

Re: Kinesis Advantage 360

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FWIW I've been quite happy with the ZSA Moonlander https://www.zsa.io/moonlander

+1 I really do like my new Moonlander, which I purchased in November. However, as a former Kinesis Advantage user, I miss the contoured shape, I think it helped a lot with carpal pain. That said, I'm not sure I can justify another keyboard.

ok, could you expand on your experiences with both? i’m a longtime kinesis user (like, LONG time—i got rid of one with an AT connector a few years ago) and i’ve been really toying with the idea of switching. what are the pros and cons you’ve experienced?

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I don't understand the surrounding decisions. Differentiating by wired/wireless makes sense. Using two different programming systems? No. ZMK instead of adding BT support to QMK? Why? RGB underglow but not individually programmable key backlights? For the money they are charging, all of these things should have been extremely easy decisions. Anyone have insight?

My best guess is that they're not important decisions to their target audience. I've been using a kinesis advantage for years, and I'm seriously considering getting one of these. I do not at all care about ZMK vs QMK -- I don't even know why I should care. RGB underglow? I don't even care that it's there, let alone programmable key backlights. I care about ergonomics. The selling point is the split, and bluetooth/wir…

I had to look it up too, but big drawback is ZMK does not yet support macros. So only the Advantage360 supports macros for now, the Advantage360 Professional does not (https://zmk.dev/docs)

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Kinesis Advantage 2 is great, but it's massive and hard to travel with. Looks like the 360 might be a bit easier to travel with. The Kinesis Advantage 2 fits a Magic Trackpad perfectly right in the middle of the keyboard. This lets you perform mouse actions with you right and left hands. Emacs keybindings never made sense to me till I tried them with the Kinesis. I feel like Emacs sucks on a standard Mac keyboard and…

I bet the kinesis foot pedals would take emacs to the next level too. I use spacemacs in evil mode so I never bothered having to learn all those key chording things for emacs.

i have one, but honestly never could make myself get into using it. ymmv but i would not make a decision around the keyboard based on that

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FWIW I've been quite happy with the ZSA Moonlander https://www.zsa.io/moonlander

whats the difference between that and an ergodox

Biggest difference is the thumbcluster can be tilted. Otherise the layout is minimally different.

e: also switches are hotswappable on the Moonlander, they are fixed (soldered)on the Ergodox iirc.

e2: They are hotswappable on the EZ :)

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