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President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by toxik »

bsjks wrote: post #15
rob_c wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not legal reasons it's laziness. GDPR compliance really doesn't cost a lot despite what a lot of legal shills spout...

If it costs more than zero and you don’t care about euros not visiting your site, it makes sense. For example if you have ads or external analytics (practically 100% of websites) you need a cookie banner. Best to restrict access than to annoy your innocent users.

You realistically don’t need to do anything at all. It’s just spite at this point.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by oakfr »

quartz wrote: post #66
fefe23 wrote: post #8

I find it highly entertaining that they talk about denying rights and then deny the whole of the EU access because they insist on violating their readers' privacy rights and that would be illegal in the EU.

I feel like you've got that backwards: making the site available if it violates GDPR would be violating your rights. Making the site unavailable to you is respecting them. That's not to mention that what's much more likely here is that a student focused and student run campus newspaper in West Lafayette, IN likely just considers the EU out of scope of their audience vs the cost of figuring out if they're GDPR complia…

The “cost” of being GDPR compliant is negligible if you simply put static content on your website and don’t track users.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by TrispusAttucks »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #63

The scale of some Chinese people's commitment to support of their government's chosen narrative against facts is quite impressive / scary. Zealots make great cannon fodder, and the more cannon fodder the higher the chance of winning. It bodes poorly for Hong Kong, Taiwan, and any other country with a coastline along the South China Sea.

“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”

~ George Orwell, 1984

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by ReleaseCandidat »

xfz wrote: post #18
ReleaseCandidat wrote: post #2

What you get in the EU: 451: Unavailable due to legal reasons We recognize you are attempting to access this website from a country belonging to the European Economic Area (EEA) including the EU which enforces the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and therefore access cannot be granted at this time. For any issues, contact help@purdueexponent.org or call 765-743-1111.

It's blocked in the UK as well, which is not in the EU or EEA, although does have the same privacy laws (UK GDPR). I assume they're blocking it because they don't care about user privacy. Their choice, but not a good sign.

> It's blocked in the UK as well, which is not in the EU or EEA

'members or ex-members of the EU' would be the actual correct wording.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by bsjks »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #63

The scale of some Chinese people's commitment to support of their government's chosen narrative against facts is quite impressive / scary. Zealots make great cannon fodder, and the more cannon fodder the higher the chance of winning. It bodes poorly for Hong Kong, Taiwan, and any other country with a coastline along the South China Sea.

People in China are taught to love their country. Seems to be working better for them than what we do in the west, the exact opposite.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by gorgoiler »

jaclaz wrote: post #83

Thanks. Only for the record, the message I get from EU: 451: Unavailable due to legal reasons We recognize you are attempting to access this website from a country belonging to the European Economic Area (EEA) including the EU which enforces the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and therefore access cannot be granted at this time. For any issues, contact help@purdueexponent.org or call 765-743-1111. Maybe it…

…on a page that makes a call to Google Tag Manager.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by potkettle »

oxymoran wrote: post #45

The brainwashing must be strong for students thousands of miles away from China in the middle of nowhere Indiana for them to feel the need to snitch on dissenters. Or, more likely, they were threatened before they left China that they would be watched while abroad.

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Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by thesuitonym »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #63

The scale of some Chinese people's commitment to support of their government's chosen narrative against facts is quite impressive / scary. Zealots make great cannon fodder, and the more cannon fodder the higher the chance of winning. It bodes poorly for Hong Kong, Taiwan, and any other country with a coastline along the South China Sea.

We have the same problem in the US. Certain "Freedom loving" sects applaud military intervention, increased police presence, spying on citizens, and the death of any protester, peaceful or otherwise.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by throwaway894345 »

Jensson wrote: post #85
t-3 wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, I have to disable logging on my servers to comply with your regulations? No thanks.

Are the logs permanent? If not then GDPR doesn't cover it. Can you use the logs to identify users and their behaviour? If not GDPR doesn't cover it. If you keep permanent logs with information about users, then yeah that is a problem. But it should be a problem, that is a big potential security/privacy issue.

This is a student run newspaper. They probably don’t employ a dedicated IT professional nor a legal professional to help them understand what GDPR requires of them. It’s easy to say “compliance with GDPR is so easy” when you’ve taken the time to understand what it requires—why should an American student newspaper have to take the time to learn other countries’ laws? Blocking access is easier especially considering the probability of the web site appealing to an international audience.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by Juliate »

Miner49er wrote: post #84

This does kind of raise an interesting question. Where do you draw the line between disagreeing and harassing? If a group follows around a student it seems like harassment, but if they follow around a politician it would likely be called a protest. What if the group was following a professor? Or the president of the university? It seems like it's a matter of how much power the person holds if it is a protest or not,…

Disagreement is basic. See something, say something.

Protesting is relevant when it occurs towards someone holding an office or a public role/responsibility (even if temporary).

Protesting someone repeatedly or in their private capacity (which is the case for any student at the university): that becomes harassment.

Threatening: that's a whole other level.

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