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Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

#91
It's a good thing because surely some of those who are still putting up with MS may decide enough is enough.

Whoever you are, that the wonderful, fully gaming capable world of Linux is there. We have some cookies but Valve is bringing a massive cake early next year.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

#92

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Unfortunately, there's one very big reason you'll need Windows 11: that Windows 10 won't get security updates forever. After October 14th, 2025, you'll need to "upgrade" to it to stay secure.

That gives me four years for the tools that lock me to Windows to decide to port to literally any other OS.

I'm not old and I have lived to see this sentiment come and go at least twice before. We're still on Windows.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

#93
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MS is getting desperate. This shill [^1] had the audacity to reply to a tweet I made praising the very excellent FOSS Zotero bibliography manager with a suggestion to use Edge. Like, come on. Amusingly, Twitter initially hid his tweet with "Tweet may contain offensive material." Offensive to a FOSS-loving mind indeed. [^1]: https://twitter.com/varadarajans

Pedantic musing: > Shill > One who poses as a satisfied customer or an enthusiastic gambler to dupe bystanders into participating in a swindle. Is it "shilling" if you're a project manager recommending your product? He doesn't appear to be posing as anything other than a Microsoft employee working on the Edge team.

You've missed the 2nd definition of shill:

shill verb: 2 : to act as a spokesperson or promoter "the eminent Shakespearean producer … is now shilling for a brokerage house" — Andy Rooney

shill noun: 1b : one who makes a sales pitch or serves as a promoter

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/shill

If you're going to choose to be pedantic, it helps to read the entire definition, and not just paste in the top result from DDG's "define shill"

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

#94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, there's one very big reason you'll need Windows 11: that Windows 10 won't get security updates forever. After October 14th, 2025, you'll need to "upgrade" to it to stay secure.

I got XP, skipped Vista, got 7, skipped 8, got 10...I think I will skip 11

What makes you think that, say, the Edge link issue will be solved in Windows 12? It looks like Microsoft has run out of ideas and does not have enough innovation to genuinely offer anything interesting in an operating system. Besides, an OS has become a commodity, something you expect to just work, not to be excited about like in the old days of Windows 95 when people literally queued to buy their copy.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

#95
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, there's one very big reason you'll need Windows 11: that Windows 10 won't get security updates forever. After October 14th, 2025, you'll need to "upgrade" to it to stay secure.

Considering the state of security in modern computing devices and the various OS's that power them, security updates mean less and less to me over time. Nothing is secure and likely won't ever be. I'd argue we're collectively less secure in 2021 than in 1995 despite massive advances in all other areas of the field.

The flashlight is just on. 1995 computers were trivial to compromise and still are.

If perfection is unattainable does that mean we should snap to the other extreme and set all of our passwords to "password"?

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

#96
post #61

MS is getting desperate. This shill [^1] had the audacity to reply to a tweet I made praising the very excellent FOSS Zotero bibliography manager with a suggestion to use Edge. Like, come on. Amusingly, Twitter initially hid his tweet with "Tweet may contain offensive material." Offensive to a FOSS-loving mind indeed. [^1]: https://twitter.com/varadarajans

Pedantic musing: > Shill > One who poses as a satisfied customer or an enthusiastic gambler to dupe bystanders into participating in a swindle. Is it "shilling" if you're a project manager recommending your product? He doesn't appear to be posing as anything other than a Microsoft employee working on the Edge team.

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Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

#97
post #22

So far in the last year or so, I've heard 0 reasons why I'd even need, want or benefit from Win11 over Win10. Tons of reasons in the negative column though. There isn't even anything to salivate over that might make you think it might be worth it to deal with the other tradeoffs. Hard pass.

Alder Lake needed a new scheduler. So any 12th generation Intel build will greatly benefit from Win11 scheduler over Win10.

This is my first PC build, out of about 15-20 or so in the last 30 years going back to the 386sx16, that does not have an intel processor. I'm very happy with the price/performance of the 5950x.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

#98

I have a feeling that MS is playing with fire again.... That every request made through the edge browser for a non local user is associated to his/her live ID is pure coincidence ;) Sometimes when I look into my dns logs, I cry a little bit inside too.

That's the moment you fire up Firefox without prefetch nor studies and enjoy the peaceful DNS logs without the constant telemetry calls to LinkedIn and to all interested 3rd parties, five eyes etc

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

#99
post #60

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I've been using Win11 now for about a week (so take this with a grain of salt) and one positive I've noticed has been a far better UX. OSX has made a ton of leaps and bounds for optimizing controls for how you use your computer, and it felt like windows 10 was lagging behind quite a bit in the last year. Windows 11 addressed a lot of these grievances. Browser overrides like this are definitely in the negative UX colu…

Would you mind outlining specifics? All I see are the current tends of tabletization continuing.

UX Things I've liked about this upgrade cycle on my desktop setup:

- More snap zones and ways to trigger snap

- Snap zones can be pulled up or switched to as a group

- More things moved in the Settings app

- Settings app is now uses a more traditional left pane navigation instead of a list of large boxes for touch

- Window layouts better remember and adapt to monitor changes (such as unplugging from an TV)

- AutoHDR

- Separate wallpapers to different virtual desktops (makes remembering where you are easier)

- Defaults to the new Windows Terminal

Some of the other changes (mica, new start menu, new context menu, rounded window look, new themes, taskbar tray area changes, variable Segoe UI, new Store, widgets) I'd call a wash. They are there and changed but overall I can't say any have been particularly noticeable or helpful like the above items.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

#100
post #76

Ok I’ll take the contrarian view. Why is it a big deal that a specialized url scheme is specifically intended to launch a Microsoft browser? Only apps built by Microsoft will use that scheme.

As far as privacy is concerned, there's not much difference between using someone's browser and inviting them into you home. Imagine two people show up at your door. One is your trusted friend. The other is your landlord's friend, and you don't trust them.

Would it be a big deal for your landlord to push his friend in the door when you try to let your friend in? After all, he owns the home (you just pay for a license to use it), and he trusts his friend, so why should you care?

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