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Re: Google says employees flouting vaccination rules will eventually be fired

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Post by Karsteski »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #84
Karsteski wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't overuse the word racism. Yes, a smaller percentage of black people in both the US and Canada are vaccinated. Yes they have very good reasons to be distrustful of government and institutions in general. It doesn't mean the vaccine distribution or enforcement is racist. I am very much against the forced vaccinations of people, and I very much abhor what is happening in Canada (where I live) with the vaccin…

I am not going to state here whether I think it would or would not be racist. I am saying though, that if you unilaterally denied COVID care to non-vaccinated patients, that would be the equivalent of denying service to ~70% of "young black people," which would be easy bait for people calling that racist. Which is why the health system probably won't do it.

I understand what you're saying actually. I mean, if that hinders the enforcement of vaccination to exist in society, then I'm on board I guess. Even if I would prefer if people got vaccinated.

Re: Google says employees flouting vaccination rules will eventually be fired

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Post by kkjjkgjjgg »

goodoldneon wrote: post #40
nsxwolf wrote: post #6

This is just life, forever. Totally unprecedented. You will get a vaccination every 6 months for the rest of your life or be totally excluded from all civil rights. There will be no end. If the virus mutates to become harmless, the mandates will be given all the credit, and we will double down on this system. It's not temporary.

Stop politicizing public health.

Ok that is funny in many ways.

Re: Google says employees flouting vaccination rules will eventually be fired

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Post by ben_w »

DiffEq wrote: post #39
Oddskar wrote: post #4

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Then why not fire people who are overweight? That kills more people; reduces work capacity more than any other, and costs more money than any other health issue we have. Additionally, if you are healthy and do not have the comorbidities that come with being overweight your risks of being a Covid mortality is less than the flu. So to be consistent Google should fire everyone that is overweight right? And you should be…

Obesity isn’t transmissible, so far as anyone knows. (With the possible exception of fecal transplants, but those are deliberate so any comparison of that to Covid would be BS).

And obesity doesn’t spike up at random intervals with enough extra hospitalisation to impede the healthcare system as a whole.

And obesity can’t be mostly prevented by getting a tiny low-risk jab in the arm every so often.

And they’re working on self driving cars precisely because it’s such a big cause of death, but those things are currently about as ready as a cure for aging. (As in: yes, but with huge caveats that make it a no in practice).

Re: Google says employees flouting vaccination rules will eventually be fired

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Post by Karsteski »

xnyan wrote: post #7
dablweb wrote: post #3

We were promised this wouldn't happen by our governments last year right? It feels like the public are building their own prisons. Why are private companies stuck policing these absurd policies?

>We were promised this wouldn't happen by our governments last year right? We were promised that a company can't require a vaccine as a condition of employment? Seeing as some companies have required vaccines for as long as there have been vaccines, I think I must be misunderstanding you. >Why are private companies stuck policing these absurd policies? Companies are requiring the vaccine because they make employees l…

Should companies also require their employees not be overweight because they are less likely to miss work due to illness?

Re: Google says employees flouting vaccination rules will eventually be fired

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Post by orang2tang »

acdha wrote: post #19
nsxwolf wrote: post #6

This is just life, forever. Totally unprecedented. You will get a vaccination every 6 months for the rest of your life or be totally excluded from all civil rights. There will be no end. If the virus mutates to become harmless, the mandates will be given all the credit, and we will double down on this system. It's not temporary.

> This is just life, forever. Totally unprecedented. You will get a vaccination every 6 months for the rest of your life or be totally excluded from all civil rights. “all civil rights” meaning you have full civil rights but can't force a private company to give you a job when you refuse to follow safety rules? Especially in a country where employers pay for healthcare it doesn't seem unreasonable to require a safe,…

You're forgetting that a majority of the companies implementing these policies are doing so at the behest of the federal government. You think Google doesn't do business with the US government, who does business with drug manufacturers? Private company? on PAPER, sure...

Government mandating private business to inject their workers every 6 months to save face (and $$$) for the "vaccine" manufacturers is fascist and anti-human. Thankfully the over-arching Biden mandate probably won't go anywhere, but large companies such as Google are doing this as a political and financial move. NOT FOR HEALTH

When politics and money make it necessary for companies to coerce people into injections every 6 months, a constantly shifting definition of "vaccinated", then things should be re-evaluated. And if you believe in this garbage you should honestly re-evaluate your concept of liberty.

Re: Google says employees flouting vaccination rules will eventually be fired

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Post by refurb »

titzer wrote: post #45
nsxwolf wrote: post #6

This is just life, forever. Totally unprecedented. You will get a vaccination every 6 months for the rest of your life or be totally excluded from all civil rights. There will be no end. If the virus mutates to become harmless, the mandates will be given all the credit, and we will double down on this system. It's not temporary.

Let's see how far you get walking around completely naked. My guess is about 2 to 3 city blocks. Your civil rights have always been constrained to protect both the safety and sensibilities of those around you. It's the cost of an increasingly crowded planet full of people who also have rights .

How ironic. It’s actually entirely legal and not uncommon to see entirely naked people in SF.

Re: Google says employees flouting vaccination rules will eventually be fired

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Post by [deleted] »

nsxwolf wrote: post #24
acdha wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is just life, forever. Totally unprecedented. You will get a vaccination every 6 months for the rest of your life or be totally excluded from all civil rights. “all civil rights” meaning you have full civil rights but can't force a private company to give you a job when you refuse to follow safety rules? Especially in a country where employers pay for healthcare it doesn't seem unreasonable to require a safe,…

If we eventually define "civil rights" to mean "you have the right to stay inside your home and order everything on Amazon", we have a serious problem. That's where this is going. It goes way beyond the decisions of an individual company. Regarding the status quo: Yes, mandates exist. The school example is a piece of paper you turn into the school office during enrollment and no one ever thinks about it again. It's n…

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Re: Google says employees flouting vaccination rules will eventually be fired

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Post by chrisseaton »

efa wrote: post #83
chrisseaton wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> violate their rights Can you talk us through exactly which rights you think are being violated?

I assume he means the right to not have a substance injected into your body if you don't want it.

Google aren't forcing you to get an injection. They just won't employ you if you don't. That's not a violation of any rights.

Google also won't employ you if you turn up to your interview with very bad breath. That's not a violation of a right to not clean your teeth.

You're seriously confused about what a 'right' is.

Re: Google says employees flouting vaccination rules will eventually be fired

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Post by JohnJamesRambo »

cletus wrote: post #46

What I find sad about this is how many who seem to be against it were just recently so in favour of private business autonomy [1]. No one's rights are being violated here. If you don't want to get vaccinated, you can. But those choices come with consequences, like just about every other choice we make. It's worth noting that fully remote people won't fall under this policy (from my reading of it anyway) so this isn't…

My Dad has a big divot out of his arm from the vaccine gun when he joined the army. Everyone got a vaccine and that is how it was because the decision was science-based and not up for discussion. Same for when I went to school. Kid not vaccinated? You aren’t going to school. Somehow that got eroded by madness.

Re: Google says employees flouting vaccination rules will eventually be fired

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Post by orang2tang »

srean wrote: post #75
nsxwolf wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If we eventually define "civil rights" to mean "you have the right to stay inside your home and order everything on Amazon", we have a serious problem. That's where this is going. It goes way beyond the decisions of an individual company. Regarding the status quo: Yes, mandates exist. The school example is a piece of paper you turn into the school office during enrollment and no one ever thinks about it again. It's n…

Have you been this upset all this while at the fact that international students have been required to take a bunch of different vaccines as a prerequisite for admission in US colleges ? You may have been, I don't know.

Which one of those vaccines requires 3 shots every year, and wait, you can still get it?
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