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Re: Opt Out of Cynicism

#91
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Deluded self-assurance most reliably delivers success. Cynics and realists tend to not understand this and thus don't take enough risks when they should, and are confined to mediocre results (compared to their peers in similar situations).

> Deluded self-assurance most reliably delivers success. I don't believe so. However I do believe that projecting a deluded self-assuring aura helps convince people to follow you, but that doesn't mean that your internals acts that way. It is really hard to know what people really think underneath that facade, I am pretty sure much more is going on that people want to show.

That is the definition of being a cynic.

There are people that have remarkably positive outlooks on life and that allows them to do the daily grind that's necessary to achieve any semblance of change. A lot of people, seeing that you can actually progress in life, are moved by such personalities and find them inspiring.

That doesn't mean a person isn't sad, or can't get depressed, or not get seriously set back in life. It just means that pushing on and hoping for change can actually get you somewhere.

Re: Opt Out of Cynicism

#92
ITT: Instead of being an overt narcissist, be a covert narcissist! :)

An apparently popular and easy way not to complain about problems is to simply stop yourself from perceiving them. The bigger the problems get, and the more you are confronted with them, while you forbid yourself from recognising that any conflict exists, the more it begins to look like the problem is your own lack of faith or "positivity". So the worse things get, the more you double down on your faith by putting increasing amounts of energy in to maintaining a delusional belief system designed to deal with problems or conflicts by explaining them away as an internal problem with yourself or your own emotional tate.

Does this sound like a recipe for improving your situation? Or anyone's situation?

To me, it sounds much more like a reliable method for the cultivation of increasingly bizarre thoughts and erratic behaviour.

What if you, instead, did the bracelet trick for every time you avoided a confrontation with the world that you know is necessary? What if you just console yourself with the fact the the world has problems and the vast majority of them cannot be solved by you (since you are not the omnipotent force)? You do realise that you don't have to stop caring about the problems, right? You know that it's just not worth investing energy in to worrying about things that are completely out of your control, right? That isn't cynicism, it's the picture postcard of mental health.

The reason is, you have pre-decided an emotional polarity and you're consciously expending effort to compulsively fit the reality to the emotional polarity that you desire. That is the opposite way round to what you need if you desire both accurate perception AND healthy emotional regulation.

Anyway, good luck with it.

Re: Opt Out of Cynicism

#94
The article mistakes nihilism for cynicism.

It’s kind of obvious that a nihilist doesn’t want to effect change in society. It’s not true at all of cynics.

In fact, most people who influence large scale change display some degree of cynicism.

Now the article also equals cynicism with “people who complain”, which is also incorrect.

Really what the OP means is “if you want to change society you shouldn’t be a nihilistic asshole.”

That is difficult to disagree with…

Re: Opt Out of Cynicism

#95

I'm pretty sure I fall into the definition of a cynic given in the piece "according to cynics, the world operates in a certain way, the elites are always the same, and will always be the same. The cynics think we are always playing the same game that has always been played. For example, a cynic may think that media’s only purpose is to sells your attention to advertisers - like I did here. And often they might be rig…

I think there's a general failure of communication here, and throughout the current social discourse on "cynicism".

There's a sort of false trichotomy at play in this post, and on Twitter I've noticed a dichotomous version: "Should we be happy that we're improving, or sad that there's so far to go?" (That's my summary of it, anyway)

Why not both? We should appreciate how far things have come (it is truely astounding), but of course that doesn't imply that we should be content with where we are. We should be deeply discontent - at least to the extent that it motivates us to fight towards a better future. A magnitude or type of discontent that leads to depression/apathy is obviously not helpful.

It seems like a significant portion of tribal "controversy" on social media is stoked by mouthpieces on either side that are almost purposefully playing into the dichotomy perspective, because adding subtlety into the discussion would throw water on the flames, and that's just ending the "fun".

Re: Opt Out of Cynicism

#96
> By realizing that the world is always changing, and by stopping to complain, we opt out of seeing the world through cynical glasses, and become part of the change. When we realize that our life can change, we can change it.

i think cynicism is a survival tactic that people adopt, when facing a reality that they can't possibly change. Change is not always an option, unfortunately. Also cynicism isn't synonymous with complaining - it's more a way of looking at things, that also comes with its own kind of humour.

Re: Opt Out of Cynicism

#97
post #94

The article mistakes nihilism for cynicism. It’s kind of obvious that a nihilist doesn’t want to effect change in society. It’s not true at all of cynics. In fact, most people who influence large scale change display some degree of cynicism. Now the article also equals cynicism with “people who complain”, which is also incorrect. Really what the OP means is “if you want to change society you shouldn’t be a nihilistic…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynicism_(philosophy)

Re: Opt Out of Cynicism

#98
i think that "cynicism" is a loaded term, and that creating a dogma against it can be a form of toxic positivity. pretending that something is good, when it obviously is not, is gaslighting plain and simple. gaslighting is a form of abuse that breeds actual, lasting cynicism, and it must be avoided at all costs.

that said, non-constructive complaining can also create and spread caustic and degenerate mindsets.

like everything, it's a balance.

applying habit tracking to one's own complaining is a great idea though!

Re: Opt Out of Cynicism

#99
I will be the first to admit that I often think cynically about things.

I also think complaining about something is completely counter-intuitive to a cynical disposition.

Wikipedia might not be the best place to look for a definition, but doing so reveals that a cynic lives a life "in virtue, in agreement with nature."[1]

What the OP posted is much closer to a contemporary misunderstanding of the history of cynicism[2]. Cynically, I do not agree with this classification of cynicism, and although I may not change your mind I think we should stop conflating the process of attempting to see the harmonies[3] of our current ecosystem with the pessimism of a disillusioned generation[4] (of which I am one).

If what you do is counter to optimism, pessimism, and realism, while having a "fixed mindset" (as the article reads), imo you are not a cynic, you are just the stereotype of a millennial.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynicism_(philosophy)

2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynicism_(contemporary)

3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic

4. https://phys.org/news/2020-10-democracy-millennials-disillus...

Re: Opt Out of Cynicism

#100
post #37

When you’ve been scammed, disappointed, heartbroken, cheated out, beaten up too many times in life, you will approach new things with cynicism. So many times things in life do not live up to expectations. Often you think you’re interacting with someone but really you’re just interacting with their ego, there is no genuine connection. They build up a rapport with you so they could later cash in on their influence and…

You seem to be focussing very much on the problems with other people, and with society. It is true that society has major problems and that, in your life, you will regularly encounter predators of all stripes. And that those predators apparently enjoy comfort, success and even admiration that others find difficult to access.

But on the other hand, I would feel pretty sad if it is the case that you (or anyone) are so consumed by this that you cannot find joy or purpose in your own life.

Sometimes it is the more profitable strategy to realise and accept that it is very difficult or impossible for one person to fix the major and obvious failings with reality. But it is actually quite achievable, through introspection and rational thinking, to identify and modify our own reactions to those things when our reactions are negatively impacting our ability to experience a quota of joy and happiness that is sufficient to keep negative ruminations about the world to a manageable level.

At the end of the day, we are just animals. And for whatever reason, nature has seen to it that we are quite capable of experiencing a reasonable amount of joy and happiness just by going through the activities required of us to sustain our lives. Breathing, drinking, eating, moving around, fighting, cooperating, resting, attempting to reproduce, and so on.

If it were not so, then what would be the likelihood of our continuing to be here? Given that we must go through many years of this stuff, without giving up, in order to pass on our genetic material before we either kill ourselves or die.

Have a nice day, friend.

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