Live data from Hacker News

Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

en.chessbase.com

91–100 of 145 posts

Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

#91
post #58
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GOAT isn't obscure or domain specific and is a very common acronym used online for almost anything competitive and doesn't need any more explanation.

Obviously it did in this case. I think the use of GOAT is common in the U.S. but not elsewhere, and HN draws an international community.

It’s common in esports, internationally.

Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

#93
post #47
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, for anybody else who wasn't familiar with the term GOAT , and don't want to spend minutes fighting search engines all too eager to tell them about goat cheese, it apparently means to Greatest of All Time . Please explain obscure or very domain specific acronyms.

GOAT isn't obscure or domain specific and is a very common acronym used online for almost anything competitive and doesn't need any more explanation.

>GOAT isn't obscure or domain specific and is a very common acronym used online for almost anything competitive and doesn't need any more explanation.

I learned this only a month ago, I am wondering if this is a new thing? I am not from US so maybe this term is used a lot on TV/radio/speech but not used as much in writing(blogs,news not sure about social media/memes) so it could explain why I never known about this until recently.

Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

#94
post #38

I feel sorry for Ian. That c5 move totally destroyed him. Some people don't understand how elementary mistake that was. And to make it in slow chess... I hope he recovers from that and goes on to win some tournaments. But as for the next candidates match, I think Alireza or Giri have the best chance to win it.

I'm a patzer, I hover around 1600-1700 elo and I'd seen c5 and ruled it out as losing becuase it traps the bishop, when he played it was I like "oh, I guess it doesn't and I missed something".

That was an unusual feeling because normally I can only get a hint of what they are doing by loading the PGN into an engine interface and playing through the game trying out variations against the engine.

Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

#95
post #25
post #16

Is it just me, or is Chess becoming a thing lately? I've recently started to really enjoy watching it (kinda hate playing it, haha), so maybe it's just because I'm paying attention?

You could say Hikaru single handedly popularised chess because he's a GM who started memeing on twitch.tv. There are other streamers who are also big, and some youtubers, but I'd say the fact that he's so highly ranked was required for success. Then Pogchamps tournament happened and chess exploded.

You could say it, it wouldn't be true (or not the whole truth anyway).

Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

#96
post #87
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chess is in many ways, the perfect esport. I'm sure I'll take some flack for calling it an esport due to its rich history and the fact that it was not originally a "video game", but in 2021 those lines are blurred. In my opinion, it checks all the boxes.

It's too easy to cheat in chess by having someone run the moves through alphazero or similar.

the big chess sites have gotten really good at spotting cheats.

I've been playing online since the 90's and I can count one hand the times I've been certain I was playing a cheater.

Lichess and FICS are great (and free).

Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

#97

It's cool how big chess has become in Norway. Since Carlsen's first WC match, there's been live coverage on TV, streams from big online newspaper etc. And internationally it has also looked good the last few times. This year there were lots og different online streams of different styles, many gaining a huge view count. And somehow, watching the rapid WC at the end of December has become sorta a Christmas tradition f…

Rapid is my favourite event type to watch, slow enough to think about the moves, not long enough to let the commentators waffle.

Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

#98
post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's too easy to cheat in chess by having someone run the moves through alphazero or similar.

the big chess sites have gotten really good at spotting cheats. I've been playing online since the 90's and I can count one hand the times I've been certain I was playing a cheater. Lichess and FICS are great (and free).

How do you tell? With CS it's reasonable easy to notice people headshot at uncanny accuracy / see through walls / etc. How can you tell someone didn't think of pawn D4 on their own?

Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

#99
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chess is in many ways, the perfect esport. I'm sure I'll take some flack for calling it an esport due to its rich history and the fact that it was not originally a "video game", but in 2021 those lines are blurred. In my opinion, it checks all the boxes.

I'd completely disagree with you here. Chess is only there because of history but it checks none of successful esport checkmarks. One might even argue that it has been a "solved" game for decades which is the opposite of what you want for a successful esports game. One of the most important esport features is updates be it meta changes or new patches. That's why our current esport games are so huge even though they a…

Some of the best esports with the deepest meta have no/little patch updates and their meta is constantly evolving. It’s the same in chess too. If anything, continuous patch updates that change the meta are a sign of weak game design.

Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

#100
post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the big chess sites have gotten really good at spotting cheats. I've been playing online since the 90's and I can count one hand the times I've been certain I was playing a cheater. Lichess and FICS are great (and free).

How do you tell? With CS it's reasonable easy to notice people headshot at uncanny accuracy / see through walls / etc. How can you tell someone didn't think of pawn D4 on their own?

With 100% certainty you can't but you generally get a feeling that something is off, in the case of an actual straight out and out cheat it's easier because typically 1500 rated players don't calculate accurate exchanges 12+ply deep.

The "smarter" cheats use the engine only when they need to and those are harder to spot but again it's moves that make no "sense" with the direction of play - be like playing sunday league football and having the chubby dude with the beard take of down the pitch like Messi.

Mostly they catch them by running engine(s) over the games afterwards and looking for correlation between moves played vs what the machine wanted to do.

The funny ones are the players who drop a piece from a blunder then immediately start playing like Kasparov for the rest of the game.

Post reply on HN