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Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

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Post by umvi »

aerovistae wrote: post #75

I hate to be the contrarian, but I'm confused by the positive remarks here. I find the interface looks like it was trying to force mobile design principles onto a desktop view. A lot of space seems wasted here and I can view less content at once. I don't find this useful personally.

You can find it not useful personally but still leave a positive comment for the creator who is sharing something they made with the community. "Subsidize what you want more of, tax what you want less of". If you want people to share their creations, be more encouraging/positive. If you don't want people to share their creations, be more critical/negative.

Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

#92

Post by teddyh »

jitix wrote: post #74
nomemory wrote: post #24

I am one of those people who actually like Wikipedia the way it is. It's what I hoped the web to become. But i am sure there are people who will appreciate your effort. Thank you for your work.

I agree with you except the one pain point that Wikipedia still continues to use "m.*" sub-domains for displaying mobile content. I know most people exclusively use mobile these days but I use desktop browsers for reading more than 60% of the time and its really annoying to click on a Wikipedia link on HN/Reddit and having it open the mobile site on desktop. It's OK to use m.* subdomains instead of reactive design bu…

Firefox plugin: Skip Mobile Wikipedia

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/skip-mobile-w...

Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

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Post by GordonS »

agumonkey wrote: post #88
nomemory wrote: post #24

I am one of those people who actually like Wikipedia the way it is. It's what I hoped the web to become. But i am sure there are people who will appreciate your effort. Thank you for your work.

I usually shy away from "modern redesign" but this one feels rapidly valuable both in legibility and usability. The chasing left side TOC is really useful. The typography is slightly fancy without trying to be in your face. The search (kbd /) is nice too. I'd motivate the author to experiment with more stuff around accessing categories and hyperlinks in the page.

Yeah, I actually like the existing Wikipedia design, but I like what the author has done here - I see it more as a minor UI evolution, with some additional conveniences.

I like it!

Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

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Post by GhettoComputers »

JJMcJ wrote: post #76
nomemory wrote: post #24

I am one of those people who actually like Wikipedia the way it is. It's what I hoped the web to become. But i am sure there are people who will appreciate your effort. Thank you for your work.

This isn't so bad but consider new Reddit vs. old Reddit. If "new" were to become the only way to access Reddit, I would probably abandon it.

It is really annoying to be shown the new site so I just use mobile apps to read it now.

Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

#95

Post by GhettoComputers »

myself248 wrote: post #31
0des wrote: post #6

OP, thanks for making this, I bet it was fun to build. That being said, I want someone to do the opposite of what this does. Less chrome, less bytes over the wire, less predictive search, less "flatness?", less timely, more timeless .

Oh dang, yeah. An extension that makes the whole web look and work like the default Mediawiki skin would be glorious. And _fast_. I miss windows having borders. Just dug up a registry hack (obscene that such a thing was needed) to force win10 to have window borders again, because I keep ending up in situations where I honestly couldn't tell where one ends and the other begins. They spent decades researching and build…

I just used win+ arrow keys, never missed the resizing.

Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

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Post by chris_wot »

jitix wrote: post #74
nomemory wrote: post #24

I am one of those people who actually like Wikipedia the way it is. It's what I hoped the web to become. But i am sure there are people who will appreciate your effort. Thank you for your work.

I agree with you except the one pain point that Wikipedia still continues to use "m.*" sub-domains for displaying mobile content. I know most people exclusively use mobile these days but I use desktop browsers for reading more than 60% of the time and its really annoying to click on a Wikipedia link on HN/Reddit and having it open the mobile site on desktop. It's OK to use m.* subdomains instead of reactive design bu…

Down the bottom there is a link to the desktop version of the site.

Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

#97

Post by thrdbndndn »

Please never ever use system-ui in your CSS.

A classic article about why: https://infinnie.github.io/blog/2017/systemui.html

In this particular case, it totally ruined the fonts of Wikipedia for East-Asian (CJK) Windows users.

Just in case the article itself isn't convincing enough, below is a list of some websites that have tried "system-ui" and then reverted it semi-immediately:

Facebook/bootstrap, GitHub, Twitter, Stack Overflow...

Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

#98

Post by t-writescode »

jitix wrote: post #74
nomemory wrote: post #24

I am one of those people who actually like Wikipedia the way it is. It's what I hoped the web to become. But i am sure there are people who will appreciate your effort. Thank you for your work.

I agree with you except the one pain point that Wikipedia still continues to use "m.*" sub-domains for displaying mobile content. I know most people exclusively use mobile these days but I use desktop browsers for reading more than 60% of the time and its really annoying to click on a Wikipedia link on HN/Reddit and having it open the mobile site on desktop. It's OK to use m.* subdomains instead of reactive design bu…

Equally, I don't like it when websites try to guess what kind of browser I'm in and force me into the mobile experience when I have a window take up half the screen on a 1080p monitor, ... so I guess there's really no easy win for this :(

Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

#99

Post by chris_wot »

umvi wrote: post #91
aerovistae wrote: post #75

I hate to be the contrarian, but I'm confused by the positive remarks here. I find the interface looks like it was trying to force mobile design principles onto a desktop view. A lot of space seems wasted here and I can view less content at once. I don't find this useful personally.

You can find it not useful personally but still leave a positive comment for the creator who is sharing something they made with the community. "Subsidize what you want more of, tax what you want less of". If you want people to share their creations, be more encouraging/positive. If you don't want people to share their creations, be more critical/negative.

There is nothing wrong with expressing any opinion.

Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

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Post by tshaddox »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #85
jitix wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you except the one pain point that Wikipedia still continues to use "m.*" sub-domains for displaying mobile content. I know most people exclusively use mobile these days but I use desktop browsers for reading more than 60% of the time and its really annoying to click on a Wikipedia link on HN/Reddit and having it open the mobile site on desktop. It's OK to use m.* subdomains instead of reactive design bu…

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> But I would say that it's the HN commenters being incredibly obnoxious, not wikipedia being wrong for giving you the mobile site when you specifically ask for it.

But it's kinda crazy that if I'm on my phone I can't just share a URL to a page with someone who happens to be using a desktop. While I'm not sure if this is made explicit in any of the RFCs or standard docs, in my view a URL should be a locator for a resource that is agnostic of the user agent.

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