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Re: Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances

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Post by adolph »

sieabahlpark wrote: post #44
droopyEyelids wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The space question is interesting. The most common Mac mini rack mount enclosure holds 2 minis in 1ru. I think at amazon's scale they could probably get 4 minis in 1ru with some custom cooling. how dense do you think instances are on average in the amazon datacenters?

Why would you not put them on their side and stack them like hard drives? You'd get way more density that way then trying to figure out how to make it fit in 1u for no reason. You could even stack multiple rows deep to get more density.

19 mod 1.4 = 0.8, 0.8 x 7.7 = 6.16 in^2

19 mod 7.7 = 3.6, 3.6 x 1.4 = 5.04 in^2

Presumably the greater waste of bottom side down is in higher number of shelves?

Re: Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances

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Post by tyingq »

runako wrote: post #89
tyingq wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The most common Mac mini rack mount enclosure holds 2 minis in 1ru That sounds wasteful to me. Is that really the most common way for mac hosting companies to do it?

https://www.macstadium.com/datacenters There's an image there that appears to have the units mounted sideways for perhaps 6 minis in 2 RU?

Seems like it would have to be 5U if sideways...the M1 minis are 7.7 inches / 19.7cm tall.

Re: Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances

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Post by morganvachon »

johnthuss wrote: post #19

This is great, but since x86 Macs were already available this is mostly just a price reduction. But it's great to have these available at Amazon.

M1/AArch64 is the future of Mac hardware, this is AWS following the path. Devs targeting the macOS desktop should be focused on M1 native exclusively unless long term support of X86_64 Macs is part of their product's support options.

Re: Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances

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Post by GhettoComputers »

speedgoose wrote: post #8

Many months later and more than 5 times more expensive than Scaleway though. https://www.scaleway.com/en/hello-m1/

Looks great, can I use it as an instance to send and receive iMessage? I could do it with my computer at home but if I can set it as a trigger able instance every few minutes to send and receive iMessage it would be pretty cool for serving iMessage to Android.

Re: Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances

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Post by GhettoComputers »

xeromal wrote: post #22
speedgoose wrote: post #8

Many months later and more than 5 times more expensive than Scaleway though. https://www.scaleway.com/en/hello-m1/

But I can do everything I need in one system with AWS.

If you’re testing software on an M1, what is the benefit of AWS?

Re: Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances

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Post by jbverschoor »

detaro wrote: post #15
nicoburns wrote: post #2

The 24 hour minimum pricing model for these really sucks. My understanding is that this is a condition of Apple's license to Amazon to run macOS on these machines, and I can't work out why they'd do it.

Because they want you to buy your own macs.

For now.. but they'll have their own cloud hosting (xcode cloud is a test). The AWS contract expires soon..

Re: Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances

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Post by chx »

runako wrote: post #89
tyingq wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The most common Mac mini rack mount enclosure holds 2 minis in 1ru That sounds wasteful to me. Is that really the most common way for mac hosting companies to do it?

https://www.macstadium.com/datacenters There's an image there that appears to have the units mounted sideways for perhaps 6 minis in 2 RU?

At Amazon scale, I imagine they strip the original chassis and use only the motherboard with custom power and cooling for some insane density. As visible here https://youtu.be/R4ArjHz4gd4?t=192 you could save some significant space doing so.

Re: Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances

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Post by ithkuil »

GhettoComputers wrote: post #95
xeromal wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But I can do everything I need in one system with AWS.

If you’re testing software on an M1, what is the benefit of AWS?

Perhaps you have other stuff on AWS, in a VPC, that is administered by an operations team which is several tickets away from you and/or you have to talk with seven layers of management before you convince anybody that a VPN peering with a cloud provider may be cheaper than the hours you just wasted with expensive meetings just used to discuss the possibility of setting up a VPN peering let alone actually executing it and maintaining it...

Yeah, many companies will gladly pay an inflated per instance price as long as every else flows smoothly

Re: Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances

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Post by qaq »

rektide wrote: post #51
zamadatix wrote: post #37

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These are Apple's terms that Amazon is following, not the other way around. You are getting bare metal that you have to reserve for a minimum of 24 hours because that's how Apple allows it to be licensed not because that's what Amazon thought would make the most sense.

I have such a hard time imagining what sick twisting legal crap allows Apple to dictate terms like this. Another example is Nvidia explicitly dis-allowing their consumer GPUs to be used in data-centers. It's wild to me that company's can just make up whatever terms of use they feel like & we have to accept that. Edit: oh hello, i'm at -4! Anyone care to defend your outrage at my outrage? What makes this seem at all o…

The term I would imagine applies to software not to the hardware
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