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Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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> forward-thinking younger talent can be the crucial difference Are engineers really the ones driving at the company? I think that has not been true in "the industry" for a decade now. Marketing, upper-management are the ones steering the ships now — engineers just row.

Maybe that's why Google has made a few dozen amazing things while FB has made basically one thing and acquired the rest. A culture that respects engineering leadership.

Most of their post-2000 successful products stem from acquisitions: Docs, Maps, Waymo...

Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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People may be more willing to hop, but they'll be able find new hires. Check out the number of applicants to any "Meta" job opening on LinkedIn.

Any automatic apply feature is going to get flooded with job applications. Those LinkedIn job posts all have an “Easy Apply” button.

Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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I don't have much data points to share. But I've been seeing responses to people working FB have been horrible since for a while now.

It has been a common trend that when someone I know posts a job position in FB, nobody replies to it. At least not publicly (publicly means replying to tweet, replying to slack message in a well knit/known group of people). Even if they are replying personally and privately, that in itself shows a problem.

When I see someone working in FB, I can't deny that I am judging them. At this point, there is no reason to give a benefit of the doubt to how bad FB is to people, democracy and humanity in general. Sure, you can argue with technical meritocracy of some tech they produce. But how long can you sell yourself that excuse really when on the other side, adverse effects are mounting up?

As nerdy and smart as tech workers are, we are still in need of validation from others right? There definitely should be some effect on people being perceived as a bad person for working for a bad company even if it is paying a ton. FAANG engineers should be more than equipped to look elsewhere because of it.

Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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Maybe that's why Google has made a few dozen amazing things while FB has made basically one thing and acquired the rest. A culture that respects engineering leadership.

It's hard to think of something amazing from Google that they didn't acquire other than the search engine. Maps, YouTube, Android were all acquisitions. Most Google internal projects are future entries in the "Google graveyard". The better stuff I can think of is mostly deep technical stuff like Map Reduce built to support search. Facebook has also done fairly well with things that are pillars to support the (formerl…

GMail, various chat things, GSuite, Google Brain, Google Translate. Maps, Android, and YouTube were all massively developed and scaled after the initial acquisition.

Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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meh, facebook / meta will just raise the salary, enticing some would be employees to come or come back and they are already spending billions on this 'metaverse' thing. they will always come back in the end.

In a sane world that would put them at a competitive disadvantage, and force them to clean up their act.

Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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While this is a trend across the board since the pandemic, for Facebook it is particularly troublesome because it's deeper rooted than at other companies. On an almost daily basis it is becoming more and more public knowledge that Facebook is in more legal trouble than it can handle and that the company no longer has much good standing in society (which, for a "social" media company, is a bit of a problem). Young peo…

I don't think the root problem is any one person, given that Twitter is even more destructive to society. It's the users, it's the incentives of the platforms, it's bad actors. There's low trust, a breakdown of institutions, a raging culture war. It's complicated.

How so?

Twitter has perhabs less than 10% of users as Facebook.

Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe that's why Google has made a few dozen amazing things while FB has made basically one thing and acquired the rest. A culture that respects engineering leadership.

Most of their post-2000 successful products stem from acquisitions: Docs, Maps, Waymo...

Docs was an acquisition? From where?
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