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Rich Harris joins Vercel to work on Svelte full time

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Re: Rich Harris joins Vercel to work on Svelte full time

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Awesome news! Having worked with frontend frameworks for years, I've grown pessimistic about them in general, but I'm enthusiastic about Svelte because it does so many things right that actually avoid a lot of the issues other frameworks claim to solve but actually make worse. Interacting with the Svelte compiler is ridiculously easy. Though the documentation can be improved, I found it trivial to import the Svelte c…

What could be improved in the documentation?

Re: Rich Harris joins Vercel to work on Svelte full time

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Can someone explain what Vercel does. I'm familiar with Svelte, but interestingly not with Vercel. A scan of their website wasn't completely clear, but that is probably just me. Edit: thanks to all who answered, very helpful.

Vercel is a hosting provider for static websites. I see it as a simplified versions of AWS, specifically for static websites.

Re: Rich Harris joins Vercel to work on Svelte full time

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This seems like a huge positive step forward for Svelte and the community. Big congrats to Rich! I've been excited about Svelte for a while and recently chose to use it as the UI for a cross-platform video editing app ( https://getrecut.com ), with the back end in Rust. I've found it a pleasure to work with -- Svelte Stores and the Context system are especially great for sharing state, and the app feels snappy. Last…

Looks cool - what is the timescale for Windows?

Re: Rich Harris joins Vercel to work on Svelte full time

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Vercel's infrastructure is multi-cloud, primarily using AWS. We're currently using Workers specifically for Edge Functions ( https://vercel.com/edge ).

That animation in the background could use a little optimization. It's redrawing nonstop for no reason. Left the site open for a few mins and it got my humble Thinkpad's fans going hard (Vivaldi).

Thanks for the feedback, we'll improve this!

Re: Rich Harris joins Vercel to work on Svelte full time

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Can someone explain what Vercel does. I'm familiar with Svelte, but interestingly not with Vercel. A scan of their website wasn't completely clear, but that is probably just me. Edit: thanks to all who answered, very helpful.

Hey! I'm Lee, Head of DevRel at Vercel :) Happy to answer any questions you have.

Vercel is a frontend cloud platform that integrates with any framework you prefer (or just plain HTML!). We are also the creators of Next.js, which is a React framework. We try to make it as easy as possible for you to write some code and put it on the web, globally.

Re: Rich Harris joins Vercel to work on Svelte full time

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Cloudflare will regret not having a developer go-to framework for their advanced Worker stuff one day. I think they are waiting for someone else to build for it which is IMO the completely wrong approach for the dream of the serverless app. You got to own the full stack including software. I can easily see Vercel becoming the pretty much only go-to in this space just from the developer trust they have created with Ne…

Cloudflare currently markets successfully to a very different calibre of engineer. Meanwhile, Vercel don't even support 2FA login yet, and publish mandatory cache-busting query string parameters to the public Internet. Their "CDN" is a BYOIP range running on AWS Global Accelerator

Hey! Guillermo, CEO of Vercel here. Security is the absolute top priority at Vercel, and you should be seeing continued progress in that area in the coming weeks and months.

We're heavily investing in security all the way from the SDK and its supply chain[1] to platform, product and cloud.

We proudly use the best infrastructure and products available to help our customers scale without stress. AGA is quite incredible[2] and so is Cloudflare[3] and we are honored to be able to work closely with the purveyors of the finest infrastructure on the Internet!

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29003089

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29158742

[3] https://twitter.com/swyx/status/1456665048949018626

Re: Rich Harris joins Vercel to work on Svelte full time

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Wow, this should be great news for Svelte and SvelteKit! Hopefully with Vercel's backing these projects will fly off. Having worked with React for about 5 years (with a project in Vue in-between) and now having dabbled with Svelte, there is just something more appealing working with less higher-level abstractions. Sure with large apps React does have its benefits and its ecosystem is larger by a good amount. But ther…

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Re: Rich Harris joins Vercel to work on Svelte full time

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Catch up in terms of hirability/company usage.

Yeah, I stupidly started some projects with SvelteKit instead of NextJS and am having a very hard time finding people to work on them.

I think the problem Svelte is having in this area is folks looks at it the same way they look at React, Angular and Vue. All those frameworks (especially React and Angular) have their own way of doing things, so you have to know "HTML, CSS, JS and React/Angular".

I think folks think that Svelte is the same way, while it does have it's own special sauce, it's nothing compared to React/Angular. Like others have said, when hiring for Svelte, you don't really need the candidate to have Svelte experience.

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